It will be trolling, everyone should do what I did. Block him (if using
OE).

Rob Overfield
Hull



I've done some searching on Google, and I must say that I see no evidence
that Jim Green is a troll.
But I think his poisson has a skewed step.

Maybe his poisson slipped on some ice and made it skewed.

Brendan

Considering the impact the weather has on people and the scale on which it
exists I find people who aren't interested in the weather rather boring too


"Jim Green" "nospam !!!" wrote in message
...
I have been a lurker here for a couple of years and I am truly astonished
about some of the participants obsession with cold spells. The excitement
and anticipation seems very strange to me, who the hell wants a cold spell?
Otherwise I can see no advantages only problems for: drivers, homeless
people, the elderly who are too afraid to turn their heating up.

I have come up with three reasons that might explain your obsession:

1. Apart from extreme weather, hot or cold, meteorology is actually dead
boring. I mean taking temperatures and rain fall readings are actually the
metrological equivalent of train spotting. So the hankering for that
elusive cold spell keeps you all going.

2. You have a unhealthy desire to see people in distress: drivers,
homeless people, the elderly etc.

3. A cold winter, like the ones long ago, would allow you to push your
heads even further into the sand with regards to Global Warming. This
probably applies more to the older user of this newsgroup, it stands to
reason that as you have been around longer you have done more damage to
the planet than the younger participants. Try pulling your head out of the
sand, it may lead to tears and a few sleepless nights but the sooner you
face facts the better.


I also find unbelievable your dislike of the phrase "At least it will be
mild" This is a good thing! The TV weather forecasters obviously think so.
Who the hell wants to be cold? It is unnatural.


Please include in your replies some advantages of a cold spell. I can
think of none.

Jim

In article .com,
Weatherlawyer writes:
While John Hall still hasn't realised that cold weather here in winter
is usually a spell with little precipitation:

Some of us still retain a child-like delight in snow, and the way it
transforms an otherwise boring vista into a thing of beauty. Since our
wishing for snow has no effect whatsoever on whether it will occur, we
surely don't need to feel guilty about wishing for it.

Not at all. I went on to point out that cold weather is most often dry
weather, so that one advantage of a cold winter may be that the risk of
flooding is less. I mentioned snow because most people here seem to be
snow enthusiasts rather than keen on cold weather for its own sake.


.... It is still a matter of debate and location about the saw: "Too
warm to snow"

Not much debate about that. "Too cold to snow" is a different matter.

Of course, the colder the air, the less moisture it can contain. But
colder on the ground is not always the same thing as colder at the
altitude from which the snow is falling.
--
John Hall "He crams with cans of poisoned meat
The subjects of the King,
And when they die by thousands G.K.Chesterton:
Why, he laughs like anything." from "Song Against Grocers"

"Jim Green" "nospam !!!" wrote in message
...
I have been a lurker here for a couple of years and I am truly
astonished about some of the participants obsession with cold spells.
The excitement and anticipation seems very strange to me, who the hell
wants a cold spell? Otherwise I can see no advantages only problems for:
drivers, homeless people, the elderly who are too afraid to turn their
heating up.

I have come up with three reasons that might explain your obsession:

1. Apart from extreme weather, hot or cold, meteorology is actually dead
boring. I mean taking temperatures and rain fall readings are actually
the metrological equivalent of train spotting. So the hankering for that
elusive cold spell keeps you all going.

It's not boring to meteorologists just as train spotting isn't boring
to train spotters. Each to their own.
Besides without the day-to-day record keeping, how would we know
how hot/cold/wet dry a spell of weather was as their would be no
context in which to set it.

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co....rPictures.html

"Alan Gardiner" wrote in message
...




Where is the evidence that everone who contributes to the group has their
head in the sand about global warming.


There are one or two on the group (can't remember who) who are
global warming deniers. Just like Holocaust deniers they must have
their own agenda......

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co....rPictures.html

"Jim Green" "nospam !!!" wrote in message
...
I have been a lurker here for a couple of years and I am truly
astonished about some of the participants obsession with cold spells.
The excitement and anticipation seems very strange to me, who the hell
wants a cold spell? Otherwise I can see no advantages only problems for:
drivers, homeless people, the elderly who are too afraid to turn their
heating up.

I have come up with three reasons that might explain your obsession:

1. Apart from extreme weather, hot or cold, meteorology is actually dead
boring. I mean taking temperatures and rain fall readings are actually
the metrological equivalent of train spotting. So the hankering for that
elusive cold spell keeps you all going.


Really so you think that meteorology is boring. That is only an assertion
and a subjective one at that. I think you are being very unkind.


2. You have a unhealthy desire to see people in distress: drivers,
homeless people, the elderly etc.


That is an unkind thing to say at the very least. I don't think anyone on
this ng wishes to see anyhting like that at all. We all talk about it, so do
I. When they chips are down a week or so of cold weather in winter is all
most of us would want to see, myself included. I don't wish to see my
elderly parents suffer and neither does anyone else. I like the look of snow
and a decent frost but I am not into cold weather the way I used to be. The
fact that our climate seems to be warming is a very good thing.
Why? There are many reasons for that.


1. Lower heating bills.

2. More growth in the garden.

3. Less clothes to be worn in winter.

4. Nicer summer weather and the pleasant feeling of warm spells which make
us all feel much better.

5. The ability to be able to wear T shirts and shorts more often.

6. Lower laundry bills beacause we need to wear less clothes.

7. Warming, I just love it. It is much nicer for the human system. I used
to live in a hot climate.



3. A cold winter, like the ones long ago, would allow you to push your
heads even further into the sand with regards to Global Warming. This
probably applies more to the older user of this newsgroup, it stands to
reason that as you have been around longer you have done more damage to
the planet than the younger participants. Try pulling your head out of
the sand, it may lead to tears and a few sleepless nights but the sooner
you face facts the better.



Get real about this global warming rubbish and pull yourself together.
Firstly you berate us all for wanting colder weather and then you criticise
us for so called burying our heads in the hand about global warming. I take
it then you like cold weather. Of course you don't. Well just shut about
about global warming. I don't care much for the global warming argument at
the best of times, but to see it used in a nasty argument like this based on
irrational assertions is just too much.
How and why you came onto this ng I just don't know. We are all used to
reasonable arguments on here. You don't seem to be.

I enjoy winter sports..

Modern winters are often very wet and bring countless misery to many
through flooding.

Listen pal, the weather is what you get - does not matter a toss what
anyone thinks of it.. Wont change anything. So is it not wiser to try
and enjoy what gets sent to you.


Richard Webb
Let it snow,,,,

"Col" wrote in message
...

"Alan Gardiner" wrote in message
...




Where is the evidence that everone who contributes to the group has
their
head in the sand about global warming.


There are one or two on the group (can't remember who) who are
global warming deniers. Just like Holocaust deniers they must have
their own agenda......

Whilst there probably are people in global warming denial, there are others
who are perfectly willing to accept that global warming is happening, but
doubt just how much impact humanity is having on the process.

Jim Webster

"Jim Webster" wrote in message
...



Whilst there probably are people in global warming denial, there are others
who are perfectly willing to accept that global warming is happening, but
doubt just how much impact humanity is having on the process.


Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. The earth tends to be warmer
when there are high concentrations of it in the atmosphere and cooler
when there is less. I hope everybody agrees on this

And as to how much impact we are having on the warming, well
is it not more than a little suspicious that the warming trend has been
accelerating at *exactly* the same time as global emissions of
carbon dioxide have been increasing sharply? i.e. the last few decades
of the 20th century.

Even if the warming is part or wholly natural we still risk adding to it
if we continue to pump more CO2 into the atmosphere.

Besides in the not too distant future the fossil fuels are going to run out
anyway so it's a good idea to investigate alternatives now.

So there you go, two very good reasons to reduce carbon emissions
even if the current warming trend is purely natural.

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co....rPictures.html

"Col" wrote in message
...

"Jim Webster" wrote in message
...



Whilst there probably are people in global warming denial, there are
others
who are perfectly willing to accept that global warming is happening,
but
doubt just how much impact humanity is having on the process.


Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. The earth tends to be warmer
when there are high concentrations of it in the atmosphere and cooler
when there is less. I hope everybody agrees on this

And as to how much impact we are having on the warming, well
is it not more than a little suspicious that the warming trend has been
accelerating at *exactly* the same time as global emissions of
carbon dioxide have been increasing sharply? i.e. the last few decades
of the 20th century.

Even if the warming is part or wholly natural we still risk adding to it
if we continue to pump more CO2 into the atmosphere.

Besides in the not too distant future the fossil fuels are going to run
out
anyway so it's a good idea to investigate alternatives now.

So there you go, two very good reasons to reduce carbon emissions
even if the current warming trend is purely natural.

the problem is the cost of cutting emissions. If the money was spent in
other areas, for example, health, education, agriculture in the third world,
we might end up with a smaller, better educated population which took better
care of the place.

Jim Webster