This group isn't about the consequences of weather, its about the
science of weather. The extremes are obviously more interesting within
any science.

uk.sci.weather!!!

Mark Chamberlain
Herne Bay, Kent

"Jim Webster" wrote in message
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"Col" wrote in message
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"Jim Webster" wrote in message
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Whilst there probably are people in global warming denial, there are
others
who are perfectly willing to accept that global warming is happening,
but
doubt just how much impact humanity is having on the process.


Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. The earth tends to be warmer
when there are high concentrations of it in the atmosphere and cooler
when there is less. I hope everybody agrees on this

And as to how much impact we are having on the warming, well
is it not more than a little suspicious that the warming trend has been
accelerating at *exactly* the same time as global emissions of
carbon dioxide have been increasing sharply? i.e. the last few decades
of the 20th century.

Even if the warming is part or wholly natural we still risk adding to it
if we continue to pump more CO2 into the atmosphere.

Besides in the not too distant future the fossil fuels are going to run
out
anyway so it's a good idea to investigate alternatives now.

So there you go, two very good reasons to reduce carbon emissions
even if the current warming trend is purely natural.

the problem is the cost of cutting emissions. If the money was spent in
other areas, for example, health, education, agriculture in the third world,
we might end up with a smaller, better educated population which took better
care of the place.

We might end up with a lot more yuppies driving around in 4 by 4s and
SUVs (these passenger pickup trucks are even appearing here now!)
burning more fuel and asking for more of Britain to become tarmac.

Cheers, Alastair.

"Alastair McDonald" k wrote
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We might end up with a lot more yuppies driving around in 4 by 4s and
SUVs (these passenger pickup trucks are even appearing here now!)
burning more fuel and asking for more of Britain to become tarmac.

Cheers, Alastair.


I must confess I was thinking of spending more in the third world. Educating
our own population is now apparently beyond us :-(

Jim Webster

"Alastair McDonald" k wrote
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"Jim Webster" wrote in message
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"Alastair McDonald" k
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We might end up with a lot more yuppies driving around in 4 by 4s and
SUVs (these passenger pickup trucks are even appearing here now!)
burning more fuel and asking for more of Britain to become tarmac.

Cheers, Alastair.


I must confess I was thinking of spending more in the third world.
Educating
our own population is now apparently beyond us :-(

I missed your point there, I seem to be stuck on this idea of tarmac.

But if educating our own population is beyond us, do you really think
Africans and Indians will not want 4 by 4s too?


there you are just talking fashion. What might be an interesting idea is to
work on fashion so that, for example, motorbikes became all the rage, or
perhaps dog carts
:-)
Jim Webster

"Jim Webster" wrote in message
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"Alastair McDonald" k wrote
in message ...

We might end up with a lot more yuppies driving around in 4 by 4s and
SUVs (these passenger pickup trucks are even appearing here now!)
burning more fuel and asking for more of Britain to become tarmac.

Cheers, Alastair.


I must confess I was thinking of spending more in the third world. Educating
our own population is now apparently beyond us :-(

I missed your point there, I seem to be stuck on this idea of tarmac.

But if educating our own population is beyond us, do you really think
Africans and Indians will not want 4 by 4s too?

Cheers, Alastair.

I'm a mountain biker (by hobby and oddly it's my job too - see
www.singletrackworld.com) and winters out in the countryside are awful when
it's dull, wet and muddy.

My favourite riding in the UK is when we get the big winter high with those
hard frozen ground conditions, blue skies and no wind. Ah yes... Bring on
the cold snap to get me back out there on my bike.

And if you want a good reason for a cold snap, the ground is damaged less by
hooves, boots and tyres when we have a cold snap, so there's an
environmental reason to add to the list.

Riding a mountain bike in snow is a thrill and a half too :-)

I'm a lurker mostly too, but I tend to only regularly come and visit here in
the winter, lurking and watching for those forecasts of snow and cold. I'll
be watching the streetlight outside the window for signs of flakes this
weekend - Streetlight snowflake spotting is practically a hobby in itself.
Ornithology is to bird watcthing as ??? is to snowflake spotting. Anyone?

Mark


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www.singletrackworld.com

"RJ Webb" wrote in message
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I enjoy winter sports..

Modern winters are often very wet and bring countless misery to many
through flooding.

Listen pal, the weather is what you get - does not matter a toss what
anyone thinks of it.. Wont change anything. So is it not wiser to try
and enjoy what gets sent to you.


Richard Webb
Let it snow,,,,

On 16 Dec 2004 04:32:42 -0800, "Weatherlawyer"
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JPG and Martin Rowley of course displayed their usual magnaminity,
about which the least said the better.


I'm the soul of magnanimity, Michael. I might have been less than magnanimous
to your good self when you first appeared on the scene but you have since made
some good posts (and points) and I now enjoy your contributions and I feel
somewhat guilty for having been so churlish. Mr Green's post was almost wholly
negative. To (allegedly) lurk and then introduce yourself with an "ad hominess"
rant is bad form in my book.

The longer he fails to reply to any of the many responses to his post the closer
he becomes to being a troll.

Martin

On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 08:56:28 +0000, JPG wrote:

On 16 Dec 2004 04:32:42 -0800, "Weatherlawyer"
wrote:



****
JPG and Martin Rowley of course displayed their usual magnaminity,
about which the least said the better.

Mr Green's post was almost wholly
negative. To (allegedly) lurk and then introduce yourself with an "ad hominess"
rant is bad form in my book.


I should know not to try and be a smartarse and use Latin phrases as the old
spell-chequer usually mangles it. I meant "ad hominem" (against the person).


Martin

Here, he would get filtered (Thunderbird 1) ... such a nice phrase ...
but I didn't do it because he wasn't sufficiently annoying (:

I couldn't help noticing that you are using TB 1.0 for news Gianna - I too
use this on my home PC (not here at work we're limited to OE) and I like it
a lot, but I'm having trouble setting it up with a newsserver that requires
authentication (it's the work newsserver and it works fine with OE). In OE,
you simply tell it "My server requires me to log in" and then enter your
username + password - however, I can't find anywhere to do this in TB 1.0.

When I have gone through the setup process for the newsgroup in TB, it gets
displayed correctly, but then when i go to the option "Manage Newsgroup
Subscriptions" all I get is a box asking me to input my username... so I
input my domain\username and click OK... I then get a permission denied,
most probably because I haven't specified a password...

Any ideas? TB works brilliantly with my ISP's newserver, but this doesn't
require a login... Any help would be much appreciated.

James

But if educating our own population is beyond us, do you really think
Africans and Indians will not want 4 by 4s too?

Given my limited experience of West African roads.... Yes!

Richard Webb