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Hi all,
After watching the BBC Heatwave programme (which I know is fictional) I was wondering how likely a dramatic change (from heatwave to extremely severe thunderstorms) like the one portrayed actually is. They said it was to do with the cold air from the Atlantic Front colliding with the warm air from the heatwave - but would that really cause that dramatic a change in such a short time? This is probably a rather silly question, but I was just wondering. Thanks Robin P.S. Just another thing - they showed pictures of cars and lorries hit by lightening - and someone died in the catering van at the music festival...but I have always been told that the safest place to be in a thunderstorm is in a car - because the wheels insulate you. Is that not correct? |
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Robin Wilson wrote:
Hi all, After watching the BBC Heatwave programme (which I know is fictional) I was wondering how likely a dramatic change (from heatwave to extremely severe thunderstorms) like the one portrayed actually is. They said it was to do with the cold air from the Atlantic Front colliding with the warm air from the heatwave - but would that really cause that dramatic a change in such a short time? This is probably a rather silly question, but I was just wondering. Thanks Robin P.S. Just another thing - they showed pictures of cars and lorries hit by lightening - and someone died in the catering van at the music festival...but I have always been told that the safest place to be in a thunderstorm is in a car - because the wheels insulate you. Is that not correct? Fictional rubbish, and particularly cheap-n-nasty TV IMHO:- 1. Base what little story there is on the French heatwave. 2. Mix it up with some archived footage of fires, people swimming in public ponds etc. 3. Get some C-list actors in to recount fictional stories. 4. Blend with copious amounts of tabloid froth. Oh how far the BBC has fallen... ![]() -- Chris www.ivy-house.net Swaffham, Norfolk |
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Robin Wilson wrote:
Hi all, After watching the BBC Heatwave programme (which I know is fictional) I was wondering how likely a dramatic change (from heatwave to extremely severe thunderstorms) like the one portrayed actually is. They said it was to do with the cold air from the Atlantic Front colliding with the warm air from the heatwave - but would that really cause that dramatic a change in such a short time? This is probably a rather silly question, but I was just wondering. Thanks Robin P.S. Just another thing - they showed pictures of cars and lorries hit by lightening - and someone died in the catering van at the music festival...but I have always been told that the safest place to be in a thunderstorm is in a car - because the wheels insulate you. Is that not correct? Fictional rubbish, and particularly cheap-n-nasty TV IMHO:- 1. Base what little story there is on the French heatwave. 2. Mix it up with some archived footage of fires, people swimming in public ponds etc. 3. Get some C-list actors in to recount fictional stories. 4. Blend with copious amounts of tabloid froth. Oh how far the BBC has fallen... ![]() -- Chris www.ivy-house.net Swaffham, Norfolk |
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Robin Wilson wrote:
Hi all, After watching the BBC Heatwave programme (which I know is fictional) I was wondering how likely a dramatic change (from heatwave to extremely severe thunderstorms) like the one portrayed actually is. They said it was to do with the cold air from the Atlantic Front colliding with the warm air from the heatwave - but would that really cause that dramatic a change in such a short time? This is probably a rather silly question, but I was just wondering. Thanks Robin P.S. Just another thing - they showed pictures of cars and lorries hit by lightening - and someone died in the catering van at the music festival...but I have always been told that the safest place to be in a thunderstorm is in a car - because the wheels insulate you. Is that not correct? Fictional rubbish, and particularly cheap-n-nasty TV IMHO:- 1. Base what little story there is on the French heatwave. 2. Mix it up with some archived footage of fires, people swimming in public ponds etc. 3. Get some C-list actors in to recount fictional stories. 4. Blend with copious amounts of tabloid froth. Oh how far the BBC has fallen... ![]() -- Chris www.ivy-house.net Swaffham, Norfolk |
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Hi,
It's the metal case of the car that makes it safe and not the tyres as the casing directs the electricity around you and to the ground, so it is fairly safe, but lightning is an oddity and is quite capable of exploding a car I suppose (igniting fuel maybe?) The cold front moving into hot air could indeed spark severe storms (as happened oop north on August 10th 2003) but the synoptic setup would have to be exactly 'right'. Remember that just a few hundred miles to the south they were experiencing 38.5degC heat! The gales would have been caused by severe thunderstorm related gusts and not from the typical Atlantic low pressure storms (as the footage was undoubtebly from). My favourite bit was when the meteorologist said: "I saw the Atlantic front coming and I thought that it would be bad because when low pressure and high pressure collide, it goes bang!' Hahaha. Hope I've got things right, someone please correct me if I'm wrong! Jeremy "Robin Wilson" wrote in message news ![]() Hi all, After watching the BBC Heatwave programme (which I know is fictional) I was wondering how likely a dramatic change (from heatwave to extremely severe thunderstorms) like the one portrayed actually is. They said it was to do with the cold air from the Atlantic Front colliding with the warm air from the heatwave - but would that really cause that dramatic a change in such a short time? This is probably a rather silly question, but I was just wondering. Thanks Robin P.S. Just another thing - they showed pictures of cars and lorries hit by lightening - and someone died in the catering van at the music festival...but I have always been told that the safest place to be in a thunderstorm is in a car - because the wheels insulate you. Is that not correct? |
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Hi,
It's the metal case of the car that makes it safe and not the tyres as the casing directs the electricity around you and to the ground, so it is fairly safe, but lightning is an oddity and is quite capable of exploding a car I suppose (igniting fuel maybe?) The cold front moving into hot air could indeed spark severe storms (as happened oop north on August 10th 2003) but the synoptic setup would have to be exactly 'right'. Remember that just a few hundred miles to the south they were experiencing 38.5degC heat! The gales would have been caused by severe thunderstorm related gusts and not from the typical Atlantic low pressure storms (as the footage was undoubtebly from). My favourite bit was when the meteorologist said: "I saw the Atlantic front coming and I thought that it would be bad because when low pressure and high pressure collide, it goes bang!' Hahaha. Hope I've got things right, someone please correct me if I'm wrong! Jeremy "Robin Wilson" wrote in message news ![]() Hi all, After watching the BBC Heatwave programme (which I know is fictional) I was wondering how likely a dramatic change (from heatwave to extremely severe thunderstorms) like the one portrayed actually is. They said it was to do with the cold air from the Atlantic Front colliding with the warm air from the heatwave - but would that really cause that dramatic a change in such a short time? This is probably a rather silly question, but I was just wondering. Thanks Robin P.S. Just another thing - they showed pictures of cars and lorries hit by lightening - and someone died in the catering van at the music festival...but I have always been told that the safest place to be in a thunderstorm is in a car - because the wheels insulate you. Is that not correct? |
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Hi,
It's the metal case of the car that makes it safe and not the tyres as the casing directs the electricity around you and to the ground, so it is fairly safe, but lightning is an oddity and is quite capable of exploding a car I suppose (igniting fuel maybe?) The cold front moving into hot air could indeed spark severe storms (as happened oop north on August 10th 2003) but the synoptic setup would have to be exactly 'right'. Remember that just a few hundred miles to the south they were experiencing 38.5degC heat! The gales would have been caused by severe thunderstorm related gusts and not from the typical Atlantic low pressure storms (as the footage was undoubtebly from). My favourite bit was when the meteorologist said: "I saw the Atlantic front coming and I thought that it would be bad because when low pressure and high pressure collide, it goes bang!' Hahaha. Hope I've got things right, someone please correct me if I'm wrong! Jeremy "Robin Wilson" wrote in message news ![]() Hi all, After watching the BBC Heatwave programme (which I know is fictional) I was wondering how likely a dramatic change (from heatwave to extremely severe thunderstorms) like the one portrayed actually is. They said it was to do with the cold air from the Atlantic Front colliding with the warm air from the heatwave - but would that really cause that dramatic a change in such a short time? This is probably a rather silly question, but I was just wondering. Thanks Robin P.S. Just another thing - they showed pictures of cars and lorries hit by lightening - and someone died in the catering van at the music festival...but I have always been told that the safest place to be in a thunderstorm is in a car - because the wheels insulate you. Is that not correct? |
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Thanks for the reply - cleared a few things up in my mind. I thought it was quite amusing when the meteorologist said that! lol Robin On Wed, 11 May 2005 22:23:53 +0100, Jeremy Handscomb wrote: Hi, It's the metal case of the car that makes it safe and not the tyres as the casing directs the electricity around you and to the ground, so it is fairly safe, but lightning is an oddity and is quite capable of exploding a car I suppose (igniting fuel maybe?) The cold front moving into hot air could indeed spark severe storms (as happened oop north on August 10th 2003) but the synoptic setup would have to be exactly 'right'. Remember that just a few hundred miles to the south they were experiencing 38.5degC heat! The gales would have been caused by severe thunderstorm related gusts and not from the typical Atlantic low pressure storms (as the footage was undoubtebly from). My favourite bit was when the meteorologist said: "I saw the Atlantic front coming and I thought that it would be bad because when low pressure and high pressure collide, it goes bang!' Hahaha. Hope I've got things right, someone please correct me if I'm wrong! Jeremy "Robin Wilson" wrote in message news ![]() Hi all, After watching the BBC Heatwave programme (which I know is fictional) I was wondering how likely a dramatic change (from heatwave to extremely severe thunderstorms) like the one portrayed actually is. They said it was to do with the cold air from the Atlantic Front colliding with the warm air from the heatwave - but would that really cause that dramatic a change in such a short time? This is probably a rather silly question, but I was just wondering. Thanks Robin P.S. Just another thing - they showed pictures of cars and lorries hit by lightening - and someone died in the catering van at the music festival...but I have always been told that the safest place to be in a thunderstorm is in a car - because the wheels insulate you. Is that not correct? |
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Hi
Thanks for the reply - cleared a few things up in my mind. I thought it was quite amusing when the meteorologist said that! lol Robin On Wed, 11 May 2005 22:23:53 +0100, Jeremy Handscomb wrote: Hi, It's the metal case of the car that makes it safe and not the tyres as the casing directs the electricity around you and to the ground, so it is fairly safe, but lightning is an oddity and is quite capable of exploding a car I suppose (igniting fuel maybe?) The cold front moving into hot air could indeed spark severe storms (as happened oop north on August 10th 2003) but the synoptic setup would have to be exactly 'right'. Remember that just a few hundred miles to the south they were experiencing 38.5degC heat! The gales would have been caused by severe thunderstorm related gusts and not from the typical Atlantic low pressure storms (as the footage was undoubtebly from). My favourite bit was when the meteorologist said: "I saw the Atlantic front coming and I thought that it would be bad because when low pressure and high pressure collide, it goes bang!' Hahaha. Hope I've got things right, someone please correct me if I'm wrong! Jeremy "Robin Wilson" wrote in message news ![]() Hi all, After watching the BBC Heatwave programme (which I know is fictional) I was wondering how likely a dramatic change (from heatwave to extremely severe thunderstorms) like the one portrayed actually is. They said it was to do with the cold air from the Atlantic Front colliding with the warm air from the heatwave - but would that really cause that dramatic a change in such a short time? This is probably a rather silly question, but I was just wondering. Thanks Robin P.S. Just another thing - they showed pictures of cars and lorries hit by lightening - and someone died in the catering van at the music festival...but I have always been told that the safest place to be in a thunderstorm is in a car - because the wheels insulate you. Is that not correct? |
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Hi
Thanks for the reply - cleared a few things up in my mind. I thought it was quite amusing when the meteorologist said that! lol Robin On Wed, 11 May 2005 22:23:53 +0100, Jeremy Handscomb wrote: Hi, It's the metal case of the car that makes it safe and not the tyres as the casing directs the electricity around you and to the ground, so it is fairly safe, but lightning is an oddity and is quite capable of exploding a car I suppose (igniting fuel maybe?) The cold front moving into hot air could indeed spark severe storms (as happened oop north on August 10th 2003) but the synoptic setup would have to be exactly 'right'. Remember that just a few hundred miles to the south they were experiencing 38.5degC heat! The gales would have been caused by severe thunderstorm related gusts and not from the typical Atlantic low pressure storms (as the footage was undoubtebly from). My favourite bit was when the meteorologist said: "I saw the Atlantic front coming and I thought that it would be bad because when low pressure and high pressure collide, it goes bang!' Hahaha. Hope I've got things right, someone please correct me if I'm wrong! Jeremy "Robin Wilson" wrote in message news ![]() Hi all, After watching the BBC Heatwave programme (which I know is fictional) I was wondering how likely a dramatic change (from heatwave to extremely severe thunderstorms) like the one portrayed actually is. They said it was to do with the cold air from the Atlantic Front colliding with the warm air from the heatwave - but would that really cause that dramatic a change in such a short time? This is probably a rather silly question, but I was just wondering. Thanks Robin P.S. Just another thing - they showed pictures of cars and lorries hit by lightening - and someone died in the catering van at the music festival...but I have always been told that the safest place to be in a thunderstorm is in a car - because the wheels insulate you. Is that not correct? |
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