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Just had a look at all this morning's outputs and I have to say that we have the
best chance for a widespread white Christmas in the UK for years ! I rate it at
75% now. I see no reason to change my weekly forecast issued on Friday, however,
there could be a surprise for the south in that pressure falls to the SW could
induce a shallow Channel low bringing a spell of sleet and snow as the colder
air continues to advect south. If you calculate the thicknesses on the UKMO
output and of course looks at the GFS they all show deep cold air over the UK on
Xmas Day. So anywhere could get a spell of snow, even in normally mild areas
like Torbay and Penzance ! But obviously high ground and areas away from the
south coast have the greater chance.

Looking further ahead, it still looks like milder air will spread in on Boxing
day bringing a spell of snow turning to rain, much as my weekly forecast
suggested.

Old forecasting lags will also know that even though one can get snow in such
situations, you never get a severe blocked and prolonged cold spell with low
pressure near Scandinavia, the Atlantic will always easily bring in milder air.
But enjoy it while it lasts, it could be a memorable Christmas weatherwise.

Cheers,

Will.
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Well I hope you are right Will because that will mean the Frosted Earth long
range(Really long range) issued Jan 04 emphasised a white Christmas this
year though in the form of sleet or snow showers and I have said over the
last few months on this News Group that it will be from a situation with
high pressure to the west and low to the north-east or east. In fact it
could well be a white New Year for many as well with a renewed surge of cold
air with a similar synoptic set up. My forecast for January issued a month
ago mentions a cold start to January.
A nice beginning to the morning here with lovely sunshine but a fresh north
east breeze at 14 mph and a temperature of 3.5C. Rain over night of 11.2mm.

Ian Currie-Coulsdon
www.frostedearth.com





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Just had a look at all this morning's outputs and I have to say that we

have the
best chance for a widespread white Christmas in the UK for years ! I rate

it at
75% now
Cheers,

Will.
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Just had a look at all this morning's outputs and I have to say that we
have the
best chance for a widespread white Christmas in the UK for years ! I rate
it at
75% now. I see no reason to change my weekly forecast issued on Friday,
however,
there could be a surprise for the south in that pressure falls to the SW
could
induce a shallow Channel low bringing a spell of sleet and snow as the
colder
air continues to advect south. If you calculate the thicknesses on the
UKMO
output and of course looks at the GFS they all show deep cold air over the
UK on
Xmas Day. So anywhere could get a spell of snow, even in normally mild
areas
like Torbay and Penzance ! But obviously high ground and areas away from
the
south coast have the greater chance.

Looking further ahead, it still looks like milder air will spread in on
Boxing
day bringing a spell of snow turning to rain, much as my weekly forecast
suggested.

Old forecasting lags will also know that even though one can get snow in
such
situations, you never get a severe blocked and prolonged cold spell with
low
pressure near Scandinavia, the Atlantic will always easily bring in milder
air.
But enjoy it while it lasts, it could be a memorable Christmas
weatherwise.

Cheers,

Will.
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http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...met_office.htm "
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Hope so Will, I bunged £30 on Friday night at 4:1 for a White Christmas for
Manchester .


Regards


Sean B


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Can anyone enlighten me on the chances of Northern Ireland seeing some snow
up to and around Xmas. I've been lucky to get a nice few days off this year
and would enjoy some snow.

Dermot.



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Can anyone enlighten me on the chances of Northern Ireland seeing some snow
up to and around Xmas. I've been lucky to get a nice few days off this year
and would enjoy some snow.

Dermot.


Dermot, it is going to turn mild for a time next week and then get very cold in
northern Ireland during Christmas Eve. 90% chance of snow lying sometime
Christmas Eve - Boxing Day.

Cheers,

Will.
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Surely you'll get a share under the EEC directive guidlines





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Can anyone enlighten me on the chances of Northern Ireland seeing some

snow
up to and around Xmas. I've been lucky to get a nice few days off this

year
and would enjoy some snow.

Dermot.





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Mmm, Driving to Southern Germany xmas day night can you hold the white stuff
off please for a while

Merry Christmas to all and thanks for an informative and entertaining year


Robbie

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Surely you'll get a share under the EEC directive guidlines





"Dermot" wrote in message
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Can anyone enlighten me on the chances of Northern Ireland seeing some

snow
up to and around Xmas. I've been lucky to get a nice few days off this

year
and would enjoy some snow.

Dermot.







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The problem now is, loads of people are going to do those

"is it going to snow where i live?" type posts.

prepare for a frustrating week ahead

Seasons greetings to you too Keith

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Very likely, Dermot.

Ian Currie-Coulsdon
www.Frostedearth.com



"Dermot" wrote in message
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Can anyone enlighten me on the chances of Northern Ireland seeing some

snow
up to and around Xmas. I've been lucky to get a nice few days off this

year
and would enjoy some snow.

Dermot.




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Whether it snows or not may I wish everyone a very Merry Christmas and
a Happy New Year. I used this thread as I know it will be well read
throughout the day.

Thanks for your posts Will, always appreciated.


Keith (Southend)

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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:33:24 -0000, "Will Hand"
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================================================= ===================
This posting expresses the personal view and opinions of the author.
Something which everyone on this planet should be able to do.
================================================= ===================

Just had a look at all this morning's outputs and I have to say that we have the
best chance for a widespread white Christmas in the UK for years ! I rate it at
75% now. I see no reason to change my weekly forecast issued on Friday, however,
there could be a surprise for the south in that pressure falls to the SW could
induce a shallow Channel low bringing a spell of sleet and snow as the colder
air continues to advect south. If you calculate the thicknesses on the UKMO
output and of course looks at the GFS they all show deep cold air over the UK on
Xmas Day. So anywhere could get a spell of snow, even in normally mild areas
like Torbay and Penzance ! But obviously high ground and areas away from the
south coast have the greater chance.

Looking further ahead, it still looks like milder air will spread in on Boxing
day bringing a spell of snow turning to rain, much as my weekly forecast
suggested.

Old forecasting lags will also know that even though one can get snow in such
situations, you never get a severe blocked and prolonged cold spell with low
pressure near Scandinavia, the Atlantic will always easily bring in milder air.
But enjoy it while it lasts, it could be a memorable Christmas weatherwise.

Cheers,

Will.




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