Roger Smith wrote:


Thank you Gianna. Refreshing did the trick, and I understand the
correspondence now. I do not know why I needed to refresh, since this was
the first time that I had accessed your site. The wonders of computer
software remain a mystery to me!

It looks as if I was not the only one confused by your time display.

Best regards, Roger



You are very welcome Roger.
As for the time, I get confused sometimes too if I am working on more
than one computer (set to different TZs) (:

Oh, and welcome to my 'world' (as it was your first visit!).

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www.buchan-meteo.org.uk

"Gianna Stefani" wrote in message
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Roger Smith wrote:


I do not see this statement. The last line on your home page that I can
see is, "Site designed and maintained using JBO Site Developer v1.0".

By the way, the time on your webcam is about one hour fast.

Seasonal greetings, not criticism, intended.

Best regards, Roger

And taken in good spirits you may be assured (:

It may be that your cache is not updating ... access the page and then
click the refresh button may help (as your post is via OE I am assuming
you browse with IE).

My webcam is on European time, as is my web server, situated as it is in
Germany (the server not the cam lol). So yes, it is an hour adrift from my
local time.
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Gianna
www.buchan-meteo.org.uk

Thank you Gianna. Refreshing did the trick, and I understand the
correspondence now. I do not know why I needed to refresh, since this was
the first time that I had accessed your site. The wonders of computer
software remain a mystery to me!

It looks as if I was not the only one confused by your time display.

Best regards, Roger

Gianna Stefani wrote:

This computer is, I assure you, set to GMT (currently 19:47).

The server through which my outgoing posts are sent (not the news
server, the smtp server) is as stated in Germany. So the header implies
that the server stamps the time on the message, as indeed it should do.

There are two things I don't understand:

1. Which machine is it that's misconfigured? I'd noticed your incorrect
timestamps before but couldn't work out where the problem was.
2. Why are you using smtp to post to news?
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Steve Loft wrote:
Gianna Stefani wrote:

This computer is, I assure you, set to GMT (currently 19:47).

The server through which my outgoing posts are sent (not the news
server, the smtp server) is as stated in Germany. So the header
implies that the server stamps the time on the message, as indeed it
should do.


There are two things I don't understand:

1. Which machine is it that's misconfigured? I'd noticed your incorrect
timestamps before but couldn't work out where the problem was.
2. Why are you using smtp to post to news?

1) None of my computers is misconfigured, and there is no problem with
my timestamps being incorrect. Some of my computers are simply not set
to the same time zone as yours. This is not unusual for people who work
across time zones ... some even have more than one clock on the wall
(but I do not).

2) I don't 'use' smtp to post news ... but the server ID appeared in the
header of a post I was discussing. Interestingly, I can see other
posters ISP servers in their headers, but I cannot see my own in mine.
Perhaps headers have become suddenly meaningless, or my brain has died,
(or both).

Summary:
My main desktop computer is currently set to GMT.
My laptop is set to where I happen to be when using it, or not,
depending on if I remember to change it.
The router which connects my LAN to the WAN is set to GMT.
My LAN fileserver (with webcam) is set to CET.

The web server which hosts my domains (I do not own it of course, I rent
space on it in the normal way) is in Germany and that server, along with
the email servers (in and out), is of course set to CET.

I have no links to web hosts or email / news / etc. servers in the UK.

I have active Internet connection facilities in Italy and Scotland, and
inactive setups in Spain and Sweden.


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Gianna
www.buchan-meteo.org.uk

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:25:00 +0100, Gianna Stefani wrote in


1. Which machine is it that's misconfigured? I'd noticed your incorrect
timestamps before but couldn't work out where the problem was.
2. Why are you using smtp to post to news?

1) None of my computers is misconfigured, and there is no problem with
my timestamps being incorrect. Some of my computers are simply not set
to the same time zone as yours.

I think therein lies the problem. Your time zone is set to European time,
but you are posting with GMT in the headers. Thus the news servers (or
local PCs) are correcting by subtracting an hour and all your posts have
times an hour behind others.
If you set your clock to European time (in line with time zone), then that
problem would disappear.

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Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 20/12/2004 12:33:37 UTC

Mike Tullett wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:25:00 +0100, Gianna Stefani wrote in



1) None of my computers is misconfigured, and there is no problem with
my timestamps being incorrect. Some of my computers are simply not set
to the same time zone as yours.


I think therein lies the problem. Your time zone is set to European time,
but you are posting with GMT in the headers. Thus the news servers (or
local PCs) are correcting by subtracting an hour and all your posts have
times an hour behind others.
If you set your clock to European time (in line with time zone), then that
problem would disappear.



In the interests of science (: I have just reset TZ and clock to CET and
the time as I type is 13:43 on this computer (12:43 local).

Does this solve the 'problem'?

I will still need to change it back to GMT after I have posted this.

--
Gianna
www.buchan-meteo.org.uk

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:47:13 +0100, Gianna Stefani wrote in


In the interests of science (: I have just reset TZ and clock to CET and
the time as I type is 13:43 on this computer (12:43 local).

Does this solve the 'problem'?

Yes, indeed it does. That post shows up in my reader as having been posted
at 12:47:12.

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Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 20/12/2004 12:52:06 UTC

Gianna Stefani wrote:

In the interests of science (: I have just reset TZ and clock to CET and
the time as I type is 13:43 on this computer (12:43 local).

Does this solve the 'problem'?

I will still need to change it back to GMT after I have posted this.


And this is posted after changing TZ and time back to GMT (now 12:53 on
computer and 12:53 local time)

--
Gianna
www.buchan-meteo.org.uk

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:53:11 +0100, Gianna Stefani wrote in


I will still need to change it back to GMT after I have posted this.


And this is posted after changing TZ and time back to GMT (now 12:53 on
computer and 12:53 local time)

Yes, that too is fine with time showing as 12:53:10.

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Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 20/12/2004 13:00:39 UTC

Mike Tullett wrote:


Yes, that too is fine with time showing as 12:53:10.


Thanks Mike, I really appreciate that.

I had no problem here with the sequence of posts, and no problem
mentioned in any other group, although my other groups are international
rather than uk only-ish and are less 'conversational' than this one, so
I was a bit puzzled. It did not occur to me (evidently) that TZ and
Time may me out of synch. as when I change TZ, it changes the time anyway.

I have given it some thought and can only conclude that I slipped up
when switching from CEST to GMT (a two hour jump) which I do not
normally need to do as the chances of me needing to switch zone on
clock-change day are not that high.

Thanks again.

--
Gianna
www.buchan-meteo.org.uk