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Default High Wycombe just 10.1C!

Current temp (11.45BST) is just 10.1C with steady moderate rain for the last two
hours. No sign of any sunshine for the next hour or so.

This May is surely going to be one of the coldest in the last 30 or so years.
Only May 1996 comes close so far. It has been a long time since the air
thickness & 850mB air temps have been so low for so long at this time of the
year. The last couple of days is the first time since the beginning of the month
that the 850mB air temp has risen above freezing! I counted at least 7 nights
where a frost occurred here! That's never happened before in my records going
back to 1979.

My prediction for this summmer: unless the jet stream unlocks itself and
dramatically changes direction, certainly not the heatwave predicted in the
media which (surprise, surprise) started appearing just after that BBC
scaremongering rubbish was broadcast) but a cool or even cold and grey summer
with the odd day or two of warmer weather a-la 1978/1979; and cold north winds
will predominate due to complex low pressure areas being in semi-permanent
residence over north-western mainland Europe feeding us with a cold north or
north-easterly flow. As a result, the south-east could suffer from drought as
most rain will fall in the north.

The cause: a locked jet stream streaming down straight from the North Pole over
the U.K. which has been the (almost unbroken) case for the last four months. If
it hadn't been for the sunshine during the last three weeks, the max. daytime
temp would not have reached 10C - more like 5-6C as the 850mB air temp was -5C
or lower for most of that time, with -10C air just off the north coast of
Scotland for several days.

Nigel

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Current temp (11.45BST) is just 10.1C with steady moderate rain for the
last two
hours. No sign of any sunshine for the next hour or so.

This May is surely going to be one of the coldest in the last 30 or so
years.

Nigel

We await Philip's CET temperature anomaly to show for 1-20 May on
http://www.climate-uk.com/page2.html. With the warm start to the month and
mild nights likely for the next week or so the month might not finish up too
far from average, even if one's gut feeling might suggest otherwise.

Regards, Roger


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"Nigel Morgan" wrote in message
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Current temp (11.45BST) is just 10.1C with steady moderate rain for the
last two
hours. No sign of any sunshine for the next hour or so.

This May is surely going to be one of the coldest in the last 30 or so
years.

Nigel

We await Philip's CET temperature anomaly to show for 1-20 May on
http://www.climate-uk.com/page2.html. With the warm start to the month and
mild nights likely for the next week or so the month might not finish up too
far from average, even if one's gut feeling might suggest otherwise.

Regards, Roger


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"Nigel Morgan" wrote in message
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Current temp (11.45BST) is just 10.1C with steady moderate rain for the
last two
hours. No sign of any sunshine for the next hour or so.

This May is surely going to be one of the coldest in the last 30 or so
years.

Nigel

We await Philip's CET temperature anomaly to show for 1-20 May on
http://www.climate-uk.com/page2.html. With the warm start to the month and
mild nights likely for the next week or so the month might not finish up too
far from average, even if one's gut feeling might suggest otherwise.

Regards, Roger


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In uk.sci.weather on Sat, 21 May 2005 at 12:32:08, Roger Smith wrote :

"Nigel Morgan" wrote in message
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This May is surely going to be one of the coldest in the last 30 or so
years.


We await Philip's CET temperature anomaly to show for 1-20 May on
http://www.climate-uk.com/page2.html. With the warm start to the month and
mild nights likely for the next week or so the month might not finish up too
far from average, even if one's gut feeling might suggest otherwise.


I'm only 0.6C below average so far.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham


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In uk.sci.weather on Sat, 21 May 2005 at 12:32:08, Roger Smith wrote :

"Nigel Morgan" wrote in message
.. .

This May is surely going to be one of the coldest in the last 30 or so
years.


We await Philip's CET temperature anomaly to show for 1-20 May on
http://www.climate-uk.com/page2.html. With the warm start to the month and
mild nights likely for the next week or so the month might not finish up too
far from average, even if one's gut feeling might suggest otherwise.


I'm only 0.6C below average so far.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
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In uk.sci.weather on Sat, 21 May 2005 at 12:32:08, Roger Smith wrote :

"Nigel Morgan" wrote in message
.. .

This May is surely going to be one of the coldest in the last 30 or so
years.


We await Philip's CET temperature anomaly to show for 1-20 May on
http://www.climate-uk.com/page2.html. With the warm start to the month and
mild nights likely for the next week or so the month might not finish up too
far from average, even if one's gut feeling might suggest otherwise.


I'm only 0.6C below average so far.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
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On Sat, 21 May 2005 12:32:08 GMT, "Roger Smith"
inspired by Deep Thought wrote:


"Nigel Morgan" wrote in message
.. .
Current temp (11.45BST) is just 10.1C with steady moderate rain for the
last two
hours. No sign of any sunshine for the next hour or so.

This May is surely going to be one of the coldest in the last 30 or so
years.

Nigel

We await Philip's CET temperature anomaly to show for 1-20 May on
http://www.climate-uk.com/page2.html. With the warm start to the month and
mild nights likely for the next week or so the month might not finish up too
far from average, even if one's gut feeling might suggest otherwise.

Regards, Roger


Hmmm.. yes! As you say it looks like the predicted warm days/nights next week
could even things out a bit. Note the interesting stats on that site for the
anomalies 10th-20th: i.e. temp 9.8C (-1.4C), sunshine 96% but look at the
rainfall.. just 55%! Even so, I don't think I can ever remember so many
consecutive night frosts in May before!

BTW, in spite of a considerable amont of sunshine, it's only 14.3C here now!

Oh, and we had a couple of rumbles of thunder yesterday in the midst of the
four-hour deluge! Next-door neighbour's garage was flooded by gallons of water
running down their garage door & then being blown in under the door by the stiff
wind! For quite a while it looked like the downpour was fairly localised as
there were brighter skies to the south/south-east.

Cheers,
Nigel

Aagh! Every time I learn something new... it pushes something old out of my brain!
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On Sat, 21 May 2005 12:32:08 GMT, "Roger Smith"
inspired by Deep Thought wrote:


"Nigel Morgan" wrote in message
.. .
Current temp (11.45BST) is just 10.1C with steady moderate rain for the
last two
hours. No sign of any sunshine for the next hour or so.

This May is surely going to be one of the coldest in the last 30 or so
years.

Nigel

We await Philip's CET temperature anomaly to show for 1-20 May on
http://www.climate-uk.com/page2.html. With the warm start to the month and
mild nights likely for the next week or so the month might not finish up too
far from average, even if one's gut feeling might suggest otherwise.

Regards, Roger


Hmmm.. yes! As you say it looks like the predicted warm days/nights next week
could even things out a bit. Note the interesting stats on that site for the
anomalies 10th-20th: i.e. temp 9.8C (-1.4C), sunshine 96% but look at the
rainfall.. just 55%! Even so, I don't think I can ever remember so many
consecutive night frosts in May before!

BTW, in spite of a considerable amont of sunshine, it's only 14.3C here now!

Oh, and we had a couple of rumbles of thunder yesterday in the midst of the
four-hour deluge! Next-door neighbour's garage was flooded by gallons of water
running down their garage door & then being blown in under the door by the stiff
wind! For quite a while it looked like the downpour was fairly localised as
there were brighter skies to the south/south-east.

Cheers,
Nigel

Aagh! Every time I learn something new... it pushes something old out of my brain!
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On Sat, 21 May 2005 12:32:08 GMT, "Roger Smith"
inspired by Deep Thought wrote:


"Nigel Morgan" wrote in message
.. .
Current temp (11.45BST) is just 10.1C with steady moderate rain for the
last two
hours. No sign of any sunshine for the next hour or so.

This May is surely going to be one of the coldest in the last 30 or so
years.

Nigel

We await Philip's CET temperature anomaly to show for 1-20 May on
http://www.climate-uk.com/page2.html. With the warm start to the month and
mild nights likely for the next week or so the month might not finish up too
far from average, even if one's gut feeling might suggest otherwise.

Regards, Roger


Hmmm.. yes! As you say it looks like the predicted warm days/nights next week
could even things out a bit. Note the interesting stats on that site for the
anomalies 10th-20th: i.e. temp 9.8C (-1.4C), sunshine 96% but look at the
rainfall.. just 55%! Even so, I don't think I can ever remember so many
consecutive night frosts in May before!

BTW, in spite of a considerable amont of sunshine, it's only 14.3C here now!

Oh, and we had a couple of rumbles of thunder yesterday in the midst of the
four-hour deluge! Next-door neighbour's garage was flooded by gallons of water
running down their garage door & then being blown in under the door by the stiff
wind! For quite a while it looked like the downpour was fairly localised as
there were brighter skies to the south/south-east.

Cheers,
Nigel

Aagh! Every time I learn something new... it pushes something old out of my brain!


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