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![]() "Mr Blowman" S@not here.karoo.co.uk wrote in message ... To calculate thickness values in DAM I have always used the eqution (1000mB - SLP ) * 0.87 )+ 500 mB height. Is this correct as I cannot explain the 0.87 constant factor. Decrease in pressure with height is 1hPa per 0.87 dam, roughly. |
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![]() "Mr Blowman" S@not here.karoo.co.uk wrote in message ... "Steve" wrote in message ... "Mr Blowman" S@not here.karoo.co.uk wrote in message ... To calculate thickness values in DAM I have always used the eqution (1000mB - SLP ) * 0.87 )+ 500 mB height. Is this correct as I cannot explain the 0.87 constant factor. Decrease in pressure with height is 1hPa per 0.87 dam, roughly. Thanks Steve Do you have an official source available as a link, thanks in advance . Regards Sean B Apologies for my incorrect date setting. Regards Sean B |
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![]() "Mr Blowman" S@not here.karoo.co.uk wrote in message ... "Mr Blowman" S@not here.karoo.co.uk wrote in message ... "Steve" wrote in message ... "Mr Blowman" S@not here.karoo.co.uk wrote in message ... To calculate thickness values in DAM I have always used the eqution (1000mB - SLP ) * 0.87 )+ 500 mB height. Is this correct as I cannot explain the 0.87 constant factor. Decrease in pressure with height is 1hPa per 0.87 dam, roughly. Do you have an official source available as a link, thanks in advance . No it was OTTOMH, but you could try searching for "degridding" in the FAQ |
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There's a whole thread taking place further upstream about Gianna being 1
HOUR FAST!!. Blimey you're a full 24hrs fast. Well that's what's showing on the post time. Is that due to not being able to wait for christmas for a snowflake or two?. "Mr Blowman" S@not here.karoo.co.uk wrote in message ... To calculate thickness values in DAM I have always used the eqution (1000mB - SLP ) * 0.87 )+ 500 mB height. Is this correct as I cannot explain the 0.87 constant factor. Regards Sean B |
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![]() "lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message ... There's a whole thread taking place further upstream about Gianna being 1 HOUR FAST!!. Blimey you're a full 24hrs fast. Well that's what's showing on the post time. Is that due to not being able to wait for christmas for a snowflake or two?. "Mr Blowman" S@not here.karoo.co.uk wrote in message ... To calculate thickness values in DAM I have always used the eqution (1000mB - SLP ) * 0.87 )+ 500 mB height. Is this correct as I cannot explain the 0.87 constant factor. Regards Sean B See my previous appology in the thread Lawrence, just reinstalled XP and set the date wrong, I'm sorry it has caused you any undue inconvenience! Regards Sean B Oh and PS Merry Christmas |
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No of course it didn't cause any inconvenience. I don't get me knickers in a
twist over such things. I was just amused after poor Gianna sends a christmas card to us all, I poked fun at it and others were vexed by the hour time difference thus creating a long thread. I bet she wished she hadn't bothered. Then to top it all you were a day fast. It really doesn't matter but it made me smile. Mind you it's bloody hard to find greenwich GMT on the xp install list. "Mr Blowman" S@not here.karoo.co.uk wrote in message ... "lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message ... There's a whole thread taking place further upstream about Gianna being 1 HOUR FAST!!. Blimey you're a full 24hrs fast. Well that's what's showing on the post time. Is that due to not being able to wait for christmas for a snowflake or two?. "Mr Blowman" S@not here.karoo.co.uk wrote in message ... To calculate thickness values in DAM I have always used the eqution (1000mB - SLP ) * 0.87 )+ 500 mB height. Is this correct as I cannot explain the 0.87 constant factor. Regards Sean B See my previous appology in the thread Lawrence, just reinstalled XP and set the date wrong, I'm sorry it has caused you any undue inconvenience! Regards Sean B Oh and PS Merry Christmas |
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I am not sure if you are asking for the exact formula, but in case you are,
it is: Z' = R*T/g*ln(p1/p2) Where Z' is the thickness of the layer in metres bounded by pressure surfaces p1 and p2. R is the universal gas constant (287) for dry air, T is the mean temperature of the layer (in deg K), and g is the gravitational acceleration standard (9.80665). Also, for pressure levels where p1/p2 is close to unity, the approximate form is probably close enough: Z' = R*T/g*p'/p where p' is the pressure difference between top and bottom of the layer, and p is the mean pressure. For a mean temperature of zero C, your factor would be 0.80 for Z' in DAM, and for 20C it would be 0.86. (pressure difference of 1 mbar at 1000 mbar). -- Bernard Burton Wokingham, Berkshire, UK. Satellite images at: www.btinternet.com/~wokingham.weather/wwp.html "Mr Blowman" S@not here.karoo.co.uk wrote in message ... To calculate thickness values in DAM I have always used the eqution (1000mB - SLP ) * 0.87 )+ 500 mB height. Is this correct as I cannot explain the 0.87 constant factor. Regards Sean B |
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lawrence Jenkins wrote:
christmas card to us all, I poked fun at it and others were vexed by the hour time difference thus creating a long thread. Vexed? Must be a problem with my server, I didn't see those. Just some helpful people trying to get things right. I'd have thought that in a ..sci newsgroup containing weather reports and forecasts, the ordering and correct timestamping of posts would be important; perhaps I'm wrong. -- Steve Loft, Wanlockhead, Dumfriesshire. 1417ft ASL http://www.wanlockhead.org.uk/weather/ Free weather softwa http://cumulus.nybbles.co.uk/ Experimental webcam: http://www.wanlockhead.org.uk/webcam.php |
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I will only say this. It seemed to me like writing out a nice card for
somebody and then being grammatically corrected. It could have waited.... or did I miss a very important issue here? "Steve Loft" wrote in message ... lawrence Jenkins wrote: christmas card to us all, I poked fun at it and others were vexed by the hour time difference thus creating a long thread. Vexed? Must be a problem with my server, I didn't see those. Just some helpful people trying to get things right. I'd have thought that in a .sci newsgroup containing weather reports and forecasts, the ordering and correct timestamping of posts would be important; perhaps I'm wrong. -- Steve Loft, Wanlockhead, Dumfriesshire. 1417ft ASL http://www.wanlockhead.org.uk/weather/ Free weather softwa http://cumulus.nybbles.co.uk/ Experimental webcam: http://www.wanlockhead.org.uk/webcam.php |
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Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
I will only say this. It seemed to me like writing out a nice card for somebody and then being grammatically corrected. It could have waited.... or did I miss a very important issue here? shrug Gianna seemed to appreciate it. Now, Lawrence, about this top-posting... -- Steve Loft, Wanlockhead, Dumfriesshire. 1417ft ASL http://www.wanlockhead.org.uk/weather/ Free weather softwa http://cumulus.nybbles.co.uk/ Experimental webcam: http://www.wanlockhead.org.uk/webcam.php |
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