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Take the sea-level pressure. Subtract 1000. Multiply what's left by by
0.8. This is the height of the 1000-mb level in decametres. (It could be negative). Subtract it from the 500 mb height. There's your thickness in decametres. The factor of 0.8 is not exact and depends on the pressure and temperature. 0.8 is exact at 4°C and 1013 mb SLP with dry air. Strictly speaking it is proportional to the temperature (in K) and inversely to the mean pressure of the air between sea level and the 1000 mb level i.e. half their sum). Ignore these niceties; 0.8 will do. Some of the figures quoted in another thread are too high. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. |
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The problem with 1000-500mb thickness is that it is not very reliable
as a snow predictor. I think most professionals would even not rely on 1000-850mb because of the times when warm air between 3000 and 5000ft is undercut by very cold air. The wet bulb freezing level is probably the most accurate predictor. |
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![]() "TudorHgh" wrote in message ... Take the sea-level pressure. Subtract 1000. Multiply what's left by by 0.8. This is the height of the 1000-mb level in decametres. (It could be negative). Subtract it from the 500 mb height. There's your thickness in decametres. The factor of 0.8 is not exact and depends on the pressure and temperature. 0.8 is exact at 4°C and 1013 mb SLP with dry air. Strictly speaking it is proportional to the temperature (in K) and inversely to the mean pressure of the air between sea level and the 1000 mb level i.e. half their sum). Ignore these niceties; 0.8 will do. Some of the figures quoted in another thread are too high. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. Thanks Tudor, thats much appreciated. Merry Christmas Sean B |
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I liked this Canadian summary of precipitation-type algorithms.
http://cimms.ou.edu/~cortinas/preprints/canada6.html BTW I have the feeling that the Americans write about "precipitation type" when they mean "snow or rain" while the British use more often "water phase" or "precipitation phase". Is this just due to small samples or is there a difference in this between Queen's English and Bush English ? Elena wrote: The problem with 1000-500mb thickness is that it is not very reliable as a snow predictor. I think most professionals would even not rely on 1000-850mb because of the times when warm air between 3000 and 5000ft is undercut by very cold air. The wet bulb freezing level is probably the most accurate predictor. |
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