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Januaries that were significantly warmer than the February
Here's a list of Februaries CETs that were significantly lower than
the previous Januaries CETs i.e greater than 2C

The first value is the January CET, the second value is the February
CET

1994 5.3 3.2
1986 3.6 -1.1
1983 6.7 1.7
1975 6.8 4.4
1969 5.5 1.0
1968 4.4 1.9
1956 3.6 -0.2
1947 2.2 -1.9
1944 5.8 3.5
1932 6.3 2.9
1930 5.6 2.5
1921 7.3 4.8
1916 7.5 3.8
1906 5.3 3.1
1902 4.7 1.5
1890 5.7 3.1
1875 6.4 2.3
1873 5.2 1.8
1855 2.4 -1.7
1853 5.1 0.6
1845 3.2 0.9
1844 3.8 1.6
1843 4.0 1.9
1804 5.8 2.9
1796 7.3 4.7
1785 3.4 0.4
1782 5.2 1.9
1765 4.8 0.4
1751 4.0 1.5
1736 6.4 3.1
1711 5.0 2.0
1682 6.0 2.0
1673 5.0 1.5


Source: Two.

My Comments:
I find this quite remarkable and I wish I had
the means to produce info like this. Just look at these differences. They
are significant and I wonder about how what this means with regard to long
range forecasting. Just look at 1853 - a mild January and a really cold
February.

Gavin.

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Gavin Staples writes:
My Comments:
I find this quite remarkable


Not for the first time, I have the feeling that you are rather easily
impressed. I don't see anything particularly remarkable in February
being two or more degrees colder than January. We are sometimes going to
have warm Januaries and/or cold Februaries, giving such a difference
between the months. It's not as though on average February is a much
warmer month than January - there isn't much between them.

and I wish I had
the means to produce info like this.


It's not too difficult. You can find all the CET monthly figures on the
Web. Just read them into a spreadsheet, as I did, and then you can play
with them to your heart's content. If you'd like my spreadsheet with all
the CET figures from 1659, then send me an email.

Just look at these differences. They
are significant and I wonder about how what this means with regard to long
range forecasting. Just look at 1853 - a mild January and a really cold
February.


From time to time, persistent high pressure develops over Scandinavia to
give a cold February with Easterlies or North-Easterlies following an
ordinary or mild January. 1986 and 1956 are recent examples. We almost
had that this year, but it didn't happen till mid-February and also the
cold was not that intense. Whether you can forecast such a development
far enough in advance for a useful long range forecast, perhaps using
data such as SST anomalies, I don't know. It does seem to happen more
often in February than earlier in the winter.
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Gavin Staples wrote:

Januaries that were significantly warmer than the February
Here's a list of Februaries CETs that were significantly lower than
the previous Januaries CETs i.e greater than 2C

The first value is the January CET, the second value is the February
CET

1994 5.3 3.2
1986 3.6 -1.1
1983 6.7 1.7

snip data


I find this quite remarkable and I wish I had
the means to produce info like this.




It isn't particularly difficult. I have all the CET values stored in mysql
database table and can produce the exact same dataset with a simple query.

SELECT year,jan,feb FROM mean WHERE jan feb+2 ORDER BY year DESC;


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Default Januaries that were significantly warmer than the February

I wrote an application "MetSCAN" in VC++ which can do the same thing,
however, it can also display charts, graphs and calculate trends. I was
however referring to the average person who is not necessarily able to write
SQL or C++ code.

Shaun Pudwell.


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Gavin Staples wrote:

Januaries that were significantly warmer than the February
Here's a list of Februaries CETs that were significantly lower

than
the previous Januaries CETs i.e greater than 2C

The first value is the January CET, the second value is the

February
CET

1994 5.3 3.2
1986 3.6 -1.1
1983 6.7 1.7

snip data


I find this quite remarkable and I wish I had
the means to produce info like this.




It isn't particularly difficult. I have all the CET values stored in

mysql
database table and can produce the exact same dataset with a simple query.

SELECT year,jan,feb FROM mean WHERE jan feb+2 ORDER BY year DESC;


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Brian Wakem





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