http://www.climate-uk.com/Hotdays.htm

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What surprises me is how very exceptional the '60s and early-'70s
were, coinciding with the period when my perceptions of the
British climate were becoming hardwired. It may (though
probably doesn't) explain my antipathy towards hot weather now.

Philip Eden

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What surprises me is how very exceptional the '60s and early-'70s
were, coinciding with the period when my perceptions of the
British climate were becoming hardwired. It may (though
probably doesn't) explain my antipathy towards hot weather now.

Philip Eden

Thanks for that one too Philip.

What surprised me about that chart was how high the numbers of both
warm and hot days were in recent summers which this post-1970 person
considers poor, eg 1998 and 2002 (both no 80F days here). It looks like
it's more than 30 years since the SE had a summer as bad as those two
were here.
I think if you made a graph like that for somewhere outside the SE,
1995 would stick out far more prominently.

The fact that 2002 in Luton did better than 2003 round here (55 warm, 8
hot*, I'm hardly in the north here in Shrewsbury) just shows how
untypical the southeast is of Britain in general.

*figures for Shawbury, from weatheronline.co.uk

Edmund

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I can see a 20-odd year cycle in there too but the 50-odd is not
obvious.

Your legends could use some more work.


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I can see a 20-odd year cycle in there too but the 50-odd is not
obvious.

It's just occurred to me what the 20 year one might be: the period of
Jupiter with the solar cycle and lunar nodes, with a bit of
Arctic/Baltic oscillation thrown in perhaps.

It would take a lot of decyphering though. The 40 to 60 one in the other
post will probably be sequences of apsides and times of the phases.

Remind me again, what area do you live in?



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I can see a 20-odd year cycle in there too but the 50-odd is not
obvious.


What 20-year cycle can you see then, Michael? I can't see anything of
that kind, the only tendency I see is a lack of years with less than 60
hot days in the last decade and a half.

Edmund

Edmund Lewis wrote:
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"Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message


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I can see a 20-odd year cycle in there too but the 50-odd is not
obvious.


What 20-year cycle can you see then, Michael? I can't see anything of
that kind, the only tendency I see is a lack of years with less than 60
hot days

Sorry. Correction: less than 60 "warm" days.
I forgot we were talking about the SE when I clicked "post" :-)

Edmund

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I can see a 20-odd year cycle in there too but the 50-odd is not
obvious.

What 20-year cycle can you see then, Michael? I can't see anything of
that kind, the only tendency I see is a lack of years with less than 60
hot days in the last decade and a half.

It is only very roughly 20 years.

Overlay http://www.climate-uk.com/EWSI.htm on the above link.

By the way bear in mind interference patterns where cycles overlap. Like
the nodes in accoustics. With the ideal conditions two opposite nodes
will sometimes cancel each other out, sometimes work to increase the
wave height or trough depth.

(Which explains the missing snow for around 2001.)

There does seem to be a solar max min cycle linked to the period of
lunar nodes. (Lunar nodes are periods when the combination of the 5
degree difference of the lunar orbit combines with the eccliptic to
produce declinations of 23 1/2 degrees plus or minus 5 degrees.*

The periods are not identical but are related -I think in some way. No
scientific reason for my belief. It just seems that way in a way I can
not explain. Perhaps I have one of those "savant" thingumie problems.)

*That's with a nautical almanack not an astronomical one. (I can't make
head or tail of an astronomical almanack. There's that savant thing
again I suppose.

I just can't "see" what the numbers mean in one of those. That's
probably one of the reasons I can't understand maths. I have to be able
to "see" what the numbers mean. I'm barely competent when it's apples
and pears but a square root of a fiver is just beyond my grasp.)

Or, as has been insinuated elsewhere, I may just be delusional. But I
think I can see where things are at with a nautical almanack. Like you
can reach into sand and know there is a stone or a shell in there. The
trouble is sometimes they turn out to be empty tins or lollypop sticks.

What do you think? Am I off my trolley?


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Overlay http://www.climate-uk.com/EWSI.htm on the above link.

If you really want to take you brain for a spin, try overlaying super
extratropical storms from the HURDAT list -and Earthquake activity over
7
M from the NEIS lists to them.


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Philip Eden

Fascinating! I see that Luton has had at least 60 days of 70+ each year
since 1989 ( less a blip in 1993) and this is easily the longest such
sequence since at least 1900. The date of the upward trend ( 1989) fits in
well with the apparent shift to a warmer regime, shown by other data, which
started in 1988/1989. For example, the frequency of days of 'days with snow
falling' here has gone down by almost 50% since 1988.
I also notice that the ghastly summer of 1954 was eclipsed by 1956 as far as
70+ days are concerned.
Peter Clarke
Ewell
Epsom55m.

I've seen the summer of 1954 described as "the year without a summer" in the
past.
Just how bad was it? As bad as, say, 1985 or 1986? Or even worse than that?
Any articles/anecdotal bits and pieces floating around?

Jim


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Philip Eden

Fascinating! I see that Luton has had at least 60 days of 70+ each year
since 1989 ( less a blip in 1993) and this is easily the longest such
sequence since at least 1900. The date of the upward trend ( 1989) fits in
well with the apparent shift to a warmer regime, shown by other data,
which started in 1988/1989. For example, the frequency of days of 'days
with snow falling' here has gone down by almost 50% since 1988.
I also notice that the ghastly summer of 1954 was eclipsed by 1956 as far
as 70+ days are concerned.
Peter Clarke
Ewell
Epsom55m.