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NOAA 18 VIS satellite picture from Bernard Burton's site at 12.48 UTC on
Wednesday 22 June http://www.btinternet.com/~wokingham...1248-b-uk.html NOAA 16 VIS satellite picture from DLR at 12.53 UTC on Wednesday 22 June http://www.dfd.dlr.de/ftp/put/wetter...6221253.uk.jpg Sunny over most of the British Isles with frontal cloud over NW Scotland. Mostly sunny over the Low Countries with scattered small Cu over the Netherlands. UK min. temps on Tuesday night http://www.uni-koeln.de/math-nat-fak...europazoom.gif or http://meteocentre.com/analyse/map_m...lang=en&map=uk Blue figures Scotland and Southern England 10 to 14°C; Northern Isles 9 to 10°C; Western Isles 11 to 12°C; Northern England 12 to 14°C; Midlands 10 to 12°C; East Anglia 9 to 13°C; Wales 11 to 14°C; Northern Ireland 13 to 15°C. Aboyne 10.0°C, Wick 9.9°C, Loch Glascarnoch 9.8°C, Benson 9.7°C, Lerwick and Glen Ogle 9.5°C, Great Malvern 9.4°C, Fair Isle and Wainfleet 9.3°C, Kirkwall 9.1°C, Redhill 8.7°C. Belfast Aldergrove 14.3°C, Herstmonceux 14.5°C, Heathrow 14.6°C, Edinburgh Gogarbank and Prestwick 14.7°C. UK max. temps on Wednesday http://www.uni-koeln.de/math-nat-fak...europazoom.gif Scotland 15 to 22°C; Northern Isles 13 to 17°C; Western Isles 14 to 20°C; Northern England 16 to 26°C; Midlands 23 to 27°C; East Anglia 24 to 27°C; SE England 22 to 29°C; SW England 20 to 24°C; Wales 17 to 22°C; Northern Ireland 22 to 23°C. Lerwick 13.1°C, Fair Isle 13.8°C, Baltasound and South Uist 14.2°C, Stornoway 14.4°C, Aultbea 15.3°C. Great Malvern 27.0°C, Benson 27.1°C, Marham 27.2°C, Holbeach 27.3°C, Farnborough 27.4°C, Charlwood 28.0°C, Heathrow 28.7°C, Northolt 28.9°C, Gravesend 29.3°C, London MO 29.7°C. http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...yesterday.html Rainfall radar http://www.metoffice.com/weather/eur...animation.html Rain crosses NW Scotland on Wednesday afternoon and evening. Aberdeen 4 mm, Prestwick 4.4 mm, Eskdalemuir 4.5 mm, Baltasound 5.0 mm, Tiree 6.6 mm, Stornoway 10.1 mm, Aultbea 11.2 mm, Barra 12.2 mm, Lusa/Skye 14.0 mm, South Uist 19.0 mm. Location of some UK stations http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/education/data/ukobs.html Colin Youngs Brussels |
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In uk.sci.weather on Wed, 22 Jun 2005 at 23:59:27, Colin Youngs wrote :
UK max. temps on Wednesday Great Malvern 27.0°C, Benson 27.1°C, Marham 27.2°C, Holbeach 27.3°C, Farnborough 27.4°C, Charlwood 28.0°C, Heathrow 28.7°C, Northolt 28.9°C, Gravesend 29.3°C What is it about the Gravesend site that makes it so warm? The London MO is at least understandable, being in the middle of a heat island. , London MO 29.7°C. What is the average maxima of Gravesend in the summer months - must be close to 24C, I'd have thought? -- Paul Hyett, Cheltenham |
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![]() "Paul Hyett" wrote in message ... What is the average maxima of Gravesend in the summer months - must be close to 24C, I'd have thought? I was always under the impression that the highest daily temps in summer - London area effectively, ware around 22C. Have things changed? Col -- Bolton, Lancashire. 160m asl. http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co....rPictures.html |
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Paul Hyett wrote:
What is it about the Gravesend site that makes it so warm? The London MO is at least understandable, being in the middle of a heat island. Not 100% sure where the Gravesend site is, but the high readings could be due in part to it being an urban site. It might also be that the area north of the North Downs is somewhat sheltered from southerly/southwesterly wind. However, other synoptic stations at Herne Bay and Manston aren't representative of inland areas - Herne Bay is on the coast and Manston is elevated. Perhaps the nearest parallel for my site in Canterbury is the climatological station at Faversham (which is where the record temperature was recorded two years ago). Although I don't have standard equipment (Davis VP, which I suspect might slightly overread temperature in hot sunshine), my readings have been very similar (slightly above and slightly below) to those at Gravesend. Perhaps someone with more knowledge of the station network can comment! -- Jonathan Stott Canterbury Weather: http://www.canterburyweather.co.uk/ Reverse my e-mail address to reply by e-mail |
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![]() "Jonathan Stott" wrote in message ... Paul Hyett wrote: What is it about the Gravesend site that makes it so warm? The London MO is at least understandable, being in the middle of a heat island. Not 100% sure where the Gravesend site is, but the high readings could be due in part to it being an urban site. Jonathan I think that the "Gravesend" site is not in Gravesend itself but somewhere out on the Broadness peninsula, near the River Thames north of Swanscombe. Not exactly an urban site, but I would appreciate more details as would, I believe, many readers of the NG. I seem to remember that PE believes that it is suspect, but whether that is because of the frequency with which its readings appear in the high temperature records or not, I do not know. Over to you, please, Philip! Regards, Roger |
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In uk.sci.weather on Thu, 23 Jun 2005 at 07:23:20, Col wrote :
"Paul Hyett" wrote in message ... What is the average maxima of Gravesend in the summer months - must be close to 24C, I'd have thought? I was always under the impression that the highest daily temps in summer - London area effectively, ware around 22C. Have things changed? My own average maxima peak at around 22.8°C in the last week in July. The official Cheltenham records though, covering 1990-2001, have a peak maxima of 23.8°C at the start of August. -- Paul Hyett, Cheltenham |
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Any area in North West Kent (Gravesend), town or otherwise, will *obviously*
be warmer than anywhere else. Continent, Sea, Land, wind direction, etc...... I agree London does buck the trend a little due to *obvious* reasons.. -------------------------------------------------------------------- "Roger Smith" wrote in message ... "Jonathan Stott" wrote in message ... Paul Hyett wrote: What is it about the Gravesend site that makes it so warm? The London MO is at least understandable, being in the middle of a heat island. Not 100% sure where the Gravesend site is, but the high readings could be due in part to it being an urban site. Jonathan I think that the "Gravesend" site is not in Gravesend itself but somewhere out on the Broadness peninsula, near the River Thames north of Swanscombe. Not exactly an urban site, but I would appreciate more details as would, I believe, many readers of the NG. I seem to remember that PE believes that it is suspect, but whether that is because of the frequency with which its readings appear in the high temperature records or not, I do not know. Over to you, please, Philip! Regards, Roger |
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![]() Roger Smith wrote: "Jonathan Stott" wrote in message ... Paul Hyett wrote: What is it about the Gravesend site that makes it so warm? The London MO is at least understandable, being in the middle of a heat island. Not 100% sure where the Gravesend site is, but the high readings could be due in part to it being an urban site. Jonathan I think that the "Gravesend" site is not in Gravesend itself but somewhere out on the Broadness peninsula, near the River Thames north of Swanscombe. Not exactly an urban site, but I would appreciate more details as would, I believe, many readers of the NG. I seem to remember that PE believes that it is suspect, but whether that is because of the frequency with which its readings appear in the high temperature records or not, I do not know. Over to you, please, Philip! Regards, Roger The Gravesend (so-called) site is, as you say, on Swanscombe Marshes, not far from the Thames. The Grid Reference is TQ 605766. See http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/getamap/ It is nearly a mile from the nearest large building (to the south and southeast) but is very close to a tall radio mast which is said to afford it some shelter, quite how I don't know. It does produce high max's but this should not in itself disqualify it. I can't see anything wrong with the site myself but more informed opinion may differ. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. |
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