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I understand how lows form (more or less), but what factors govern the
generation & intensity of high pressure areas?
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Paul.
As far as I understand highs are formed where air decends. This being from
air that was warmed and accended elsewhere, ie. the equatotrial regions
where low pressure is formed by warmed rising air.
Hope this helps but I'm sure its far from the whole story.

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The pressure at any level in the atmosphere is governed by the weight of air
above that level. For a given volume, there are more molecules, thus more
mass, when the air is cooler, and less mass when it is warmer. High pressure
then comes about due to a cold anomaly at some level in the atmosphere
above. For the global scale mid-latitude surface high pressure,
tropospheric air descends over these regions, thus warming the troposphere
there, and the cold anomaly must lie above this, and indeed is found in the
lower stratosphere. The temperature regime in the lower stratosphere is
dominated by dynamic effects, with warm anomalies where air is descending,
and cold ones where the reverse is true. Winter continental high and polar
high pressure can be due to radiational cooling of the air near the ground,
in which case the surface high pressure is due to a cold anomaly in the
lower troposphere.
On a global scale, most of the surface pressure pattern can be considered as
an imprint of the pressure pattern at some level in the mid stratosphere,
modulated by the thermal or thickness pattern of the intervening layers.
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Bernard Burton
Wokingham, Berkshire, UK.

Satellite images at:
www.btinternet.com/~wokingham.weather/wwp.html
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The pressure at any level in the atmosphere is governed by the weight of air
above that level. For a given volume, there are more molecules, thus more
mass, when the air is cooler, and less mass when it is warmer. High pressure
then comes about due to a cold anomaly at some level in the atmosphere
above. For the global scale mid-latitude surface high pressure,
tropospheric air descends over these regions, thus warming the troposphere
there, and the cold anomaly must lie above this, and indeed is found in the
lower stratosphere.


Let us not forget our good friend Mr Coriolis shall we?


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In uk.sci.weather on Wed, 6 Jul 2005 at 23:12:09, Bernard Burton wrote :
The pressure at any level in the atmosphere is governed by the weight of air
above that level. For a given volume, there are more molecules, thus more
mass, when the air is cooler, and less mass when it is warmer. High pressure
then comes about due to a cold anomaly at some level in the atmosphere
above. For the global scale mid-latitude surface high pressure,
tropospheric air descends over these regions, thus warming the troposphere
there, and the cold anomaly must lie above this, and indeed is found in the
lower stratosphere. The temperature regime in the lower stratosphere is
dominated by dynamic effects, with warm anomalies where air is descending,
and cold ones where the reverse is true. Winter continental high and polar
high pressure can be due to radiational cooling of the air near the ground,
in which case the surface high pressure is due to a cold anomaly in the
lower troposphere.
On a global scale, most of the surface pressure pattern can be considered as
an imprint of the pressure pattern at some level in the mid stratosphere,
modulated by the thermal or thickness pattern of the intervening layers.


Thanks - that helps a bit.
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Thanks - that helps a bit.


I prefer to believe it is magic.

('Cause it is effing magic to me how cyclones are spun by Coriolis'
Farce and evidently Tornadoes can't be, unless there is a magic spell
stopping the thundercloud above it spinning too.)

(And how come they are grey and anticyclones are clear?)

(And how come tornadoes can be even darker than the much thicker clouds
above them yet they are alledgedly filled with lightning?)

If that's not magic I don't know what ****** is.

(Unless you count the magic way sensible people explain it all away.)


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Bernard Burton wrote:
The pressure at any level in the atmosphere is governed by the weight of air
above that level. For a given volume, there are more molecules, thus more
mass, when the air is cooler, and less mass when it is warmer. High pressure
then comes about due to a cold anomaly at some level in the atmosphere
above. For the global scale mid-latitude surface high pressure,
tropospheric air descends over these regions, thus warming the troposphere
there, and the cold anomaly must lie above this, and indeed is found in the
lower stratosphere. The temperature regime in the lower stratosphere is
dominated by dynamic effects, with warm anomalies where air is descending,
and cold ones where the reverse is true. Winter continental high and polar
high pressure can be due to radiational cooling of the air near the ground,
in which case the surface high pressure is due to a cold anomaly in the
lower troposphere.
On a global scale, most of the surface pressure pattern can be considered as
an imprint of the pressure pattern at some level in the mid stratosphere,
modulated by the thermal or thickness pattern of the intervening layers.
--
Bernard Burton
Wokingham, Berkshire, UK.


Thanks for that, Bernard. I've often wondered where the
"extra air" that causes high pressure is situated is located and the
answer is in the stratosphere, as it must be. However, I'm still not
sure how that air gets there since the formation of Highs (and Lows)
can be readily correlated with ageostrophic motions in the middle and
upper troposphere. Clearly I'm missing some point or other. Any help?

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.



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