GBH wrote:
Just a random thought, are you using the Windows or other firewall? Either
could cause the problems you are seeing if they are not configured to trust
the local network.

Geoff

I'm completely knackered now. Can't even get to the device through the
PC. Usually you get a login and password prompt, it just times out
trying to find the IP address. Tried resetting the device and reloading
the CD config stuff, but nothing. I've had anough now, I've spent to
long on this and I'm tired!

--
Keith (Southend)

'Weather Home & Abroad'
http://www.southendweather.net

Keith (Southend) wrote:
GBH wrote:

Just a random thought, are you using the Windows or other firewall?
Either could cause the problems you are seeing if they are not
configured to trust the local network.

Geoff


I'm completely knackered now. Can't even get to the device through the
PC. Usually you get a login and password prompt, it just times out
trying to find the IP address. Tried resetting the device and reloading
the CD config stuff, but nothing. I've had anough now, I've spent to
long on this and I'm tired!


Ok, I'm back to were I was 9am this morning !

I can now get into the Web based setup screen ~ phew

--
Keith (Southend)

'Weather Home & Abroad'
http://www.southendweather.net

Keith (Southend) wrote:
Keith (Southend) wrote:

GBH wrote:

Just a random thought, are you using the Windows or other firewall?
Either could cause the problems you are seeing if they are not
configured to trust the local network.

Geoff



I'm completely knackered now. Can't even get to the device through the
PC. Usually you get a login and password prompt, it just times out
trying to find the IP address. Tried resetting the device and
reloading the CD config stuff, but nothing. I've had anough now, I've
spent to long on this and I'm tired!


Ok, I'm back to were I was 9am this morning !

I can now get into the Web based setup screen ~ phew


I have it on:
Mixed mode
SSID Broadcast: enabled
Wireless Security: Disabled
Channel 11

Still my notebook sees it, with excellent strength, it's connected. but
still I can download nothing!

It was when I tried to set up things manually and enable dhcp that I
lost the http link to the access point.


--
Keith (Southend)

'Weather Home & Abroad'
http://www.southendweather.net

In article , dated Sat, 23 Jul
2005, "Keith (Southend)" wrote

I have it on:
Mixed mode
SSID Broadcast: enabled
Wireless Security: Disabled
Channel 11

Still my notebook sees it, with excellent strength, it's connected. but
still I can download nothing!

It was when I tried to set up things manually and enable dhcp that I
lost the http link to the access point.


I know very little of these things and am following this discussion with
great interest. We've got a rather old Linksys wireless hub, linked to
a Solwise ADSL modem, and two or three various machines connected to it
- a desktop and laptop with Linksys cards, and a Toshiba laptop with
built-in card. The system has been up and running now for three years
and is incredibly stable, it only ever falls over if Demon does so
first. However, it's so antique that we dare not change anything in the
way it runs, which doesn't use DCHP, but relies on each component in the
network identifying itself with a fixed IP address (via TCP/IP dialogue
on the computer. We are all running XP).

This means in practice, though, that I don't seem ever to be able to get
into any other networks (for example, those at cafes or stations) - I
can see the network and am apparently connected to it, but like you,
cannot download anything or see the network home page.

I suppose it must be something to do with the DCHP/ fixed internal IP
address thingy? At any rate, if you can solve your problem, Keith, I
may be able to solve mine too!






--
Kate B

PS 'elvira' is spamtrapped - please reply to 'elviraspam' at cockaigne if you want
to reply personally

Kate Brown wrote:
In article , dated Sat, 23 Jul
2005, "Keith (Southend)" wrote


I have it on:
Mixed mode
SSID Broadcast: enabled
Wireless Security: Disabled
Channel 11

Still my notebook sees it, with excellent strength, it's connected.
but still I can download nothing!

It was when I tried to set up things manually and enable dhcp that I
lost the http link to the access point.


I know very little of these things and am following this discussion with
great interest. We've got a rather old Linksys wireless hub, linked to
a Solwise ADSL modem, and two or three various machines connected to it
- a desktop and laptop with Linksys cards, and a Toshiba laptop with
built-in card. The system has been up and running now for three years
and is incredibly stable, it only ever falls over if Demon does so
first. However, it's so antique that we dare not change anything in the
way it runs, which doesn't use DCHP, but relies on each component in the
network identifying itself with a fixed IP address (via TCP/IP dialogue
on the computer. We are all running XP).

This means in practice, though, that I don't seem ever to be able to get
into any other networks (for example, those at cafes or stations) - I
can see the network and am apparently connected to it, but like you,
cannot download anything or see the network home page.

I suppose it must be something to do with the DCHP/ fixed internal IP
address thingy? At any rate, if you can solve your problem, Keith, I
may be able to solve mine too!


Kate,

If I resolve this I most definately will let you know, I've saved your
e-mail address.

What I find extremly intresting is you have an almost identical list of
equipment and settings to myself.
1. Demon account
2. Solwise adsl router.
3. Toshiba Laptop (Only my daughters has a Linksys PCMIA Card)
4. Exactly the same symptoms. Connected, but nothing happens.

Indidentally...
My daughters laptop upstairs is currently connected fine on Channel 11,
(67%), as I just did some
updates. Infact it is picking up 2 signals, mine 'Linksys' and another
'Chan 1'
which is actually on Channel 6. (37%)I can even see their MAC address.
Someone in the area. So it does work
with the Linksys card. The IP address I having thoughts about and I
still don't understand the DCHP bit, I played
around with that this morning and lost the lot, had to reset the Linksys
Access Point.

Sorry to the rest of you for being off-topic, but I've had more joy from
here than alt.internet.wireless. Thankyou for that :-)

--
Keith (Southend)

'Weather Home & Abroad'
http://www.southendweather.net

Hi Keith
as others have mentioned DHCP is the easy way to go, when you say you
lost the connection when you tried switching to it this morning, did you
just switch, to "Obtain an IP address automatically" and "Obtain DNS server
address automatically" on the computer? You'll need to check if DHCP is
active on the wireless access point, as this would explain the complete loss
this morning. I would try and ping a few addresses to see how far you can
communicate, go to the 'run' command and type CMD. Then type PING and the
address of the router 168.****. Then try PING 212.58.224.81. Then try PING
www.bbc.co.uk. If you've got another computer attached to the router, try
pinging that IP address as well. This should tell you if you've got access
across your LAN and if you've got access to the WAN. If your running XP is
it home or pro? I would also look at XP SP2 causing problems, especially
windows firewall, even if you disable it in one window, it still runs on the
connection unless you knock it off again in 'advanced'. Can you see "view
status of this connection", when in network connections? If so what is the
state of packets sent and received? Have you run the Wireless network setup
wizard?
Hope that gets you further on in resolving your problems.
Regards
Azz

"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
...
Kate Brown wrote:
In article , dated Sat, 23 Jul
2005, "Keith (Southend)" wrote


I have it on:
Mixed mode
SSID Broadcast: enabled
Wireless Security: Disabled
Channel 11

Still my notebook sees it, with excellent strength, it's connected. but
still I can download nothing!

It was when I tried to set up things manually and enable dhcp that I
lost the http link to the access point.


I know very little of these things and am following this discussion with
great interest. We've got a rather old Linksys wireless hub, linked to a
Solwise ADSL modem, and two or three various machines connected to it - a
desktop and laptop with Linksys cards, and a Toshiba laptop with built-in
card. The system has been up and running now for three years and is
incredibly stable, it only ever falls over if Demon does so first.
However, it's so antique that we dare not change anything in the way it
runs, which doesn't use DCHP, but relies on each component in the network
identifying itself with a fixed IP address (via TCP/IP dialogue on the
computer. We are all running XP).

This means in practice, though, that I don't seem ever to be able to get
into any other networks (for example, those at cafes or stations) - I can
see the network and am apparently connected to it, but like you, cannot
download anything or see the network home page.

I suppose it must be something to do with the DCHP/ fixed internal IP
address thingy? At any rate, if you can solve your problem, Keith, I may
be able to solve mine too!


Kate,

If I resolve this I most definately will let you know, I've saved your
e-mail address.

What I find extremly intresting is you have an almost identical list of
equipment and settings to myself.
1. Demon account
2. Solwise adsl router.
3. Toshiba Laptop (Only my daughters has a Linksys PCMIA Card)
4. Exactly the same symptoms. Connected, but nothing happens.

Indidentally...
My daughters laptop upstairs is currently connected fine on Channel 11,
(67%), as I just did some
updates. Infact it is picking up 2 signals, mine 'Linksys' and another
'Chan 1'
which is actually on Channel 6. (37%)I can even see their MAC address.
Someone in the area. So it does work
with the Linksys card. The IP address I having thoughts about and I still
don't understand the DCHP bit, I played
around with that this morning and lost the lot, had to reset the Linksys
Access Point.

Sorry to the rest of you for being off-topic, but I've had more joy from
here than alt.internet.wireless. Thankyou for that :-)

--
Keith (Southend)

'Weather Home & Abroad'
http://www.southendweather.net

Keith (Southend) wrote:
Keith (Southend) wrote:

Keith (Southend) wrote:

GBH wrote:

Just a random thought, are you using the Windows or other firewall?
Either could cause the problems you are seeing if they are not
configured to trust the local network.

Geoff
I'm completely knackered now. Can't even get to the device through
the PC. Usually you get a login and password prompt, it just times
out trying to find the IP address. Tried resetting the device and
reloading the CD config stuff, but nothing. I've had anough now, I've
spent to long on this and I'm tired!

Still my notebook sees it, with excellent strength, it's connected. but
still I can download nothing!

We have a Linksys Wireless-G router in our house, and although I didn't
set it up I did originally have a similar problem to you - excellent
strength but no connectivity. The problem turned out to be with the
router rather than my machine, because it was set to do MAC address
filtering. This is where the router blocks network cards that aren't in
its 'allowed' list - in my case my laptop's wireless card.

The Wireless-G router has a web-based configuration interface that you
may be able to connect to from your daughter's laptop, given that her
machine seems to connect. Open up a web browser and go to
http://192.168.0.1/ (or whatever the IP address of the router is -
possibly listed using ipconfig /all on her machine?). There is a
'Wireless' menu in the interface with 'MAC Filtering' as a submenu. If
'Wireless MAC Filter' is enabled in this screen then that may be your
problem - you can disable it, though it would be better to add your MAC
address to the list. Your MAC address is the 'Physical Address' you see
when you run ipconfig /all . Make a note of any changes you make, in
case you need to reverse them later...

Other things to check in the configuration interface include whether the
router is set up to use security (Wireless - Security on the web
interface). I've had major headaches before only to discover that I
should have been using a password, or a different key length.

Good luck with getting it working, these things can take an awful amount
of perseverance!

--
Paul Duff
Bristol

Paul Duff wrote:
Keith (Southend) wrote:

Keith (Southend) wrote:

Keith (Southend) wrote:

GBH wrote:

Just a random thought, are you using the Windows or other firewall?
Either could cause the problems you are seeing if they are not
configured to trust the local network.

Geoff

I'm completely knackered now. Can't even get to the device through
the PC. Usually you get a login and password prompt, it just times
out trying to find the IP address. Tried resetting the device and
reloading the CD config stuff, but nothing. I've had anough now,
I've spent to long on this and I'm tired!


Still my notebook sees it, with excellent strength, it's connected.
but still I can download nothing!


We have a Linksys Wireless-G router in our house, and although I didn't
set it up I did originally have a similar problem to you - excellent
strength but no connectivity. The problem turned out to be with the
router rather than my machine, because it was set to do MAC address
filtering. This is where the router blocks network cards that aren't in
its 'allowed' list - in my case my laptop's wireless card.

The Wireless-G router has a web-based configuration interface that you
may be able to connect to from your daughter's laptop, given that her
machine seems to connect. Open up a web browser and go to
http://192.168.0.1/ (or whatever the IP address of the router is -
possibly listed using ipconfig /all on her machine?). There is a
'Wireless' menu in the interface with 'MAC Filtering' as a submenu. If
'Wireless MAC Filter' is enabled in this screen then that may be your
problem - you can disable it, though it would be better to add your MAC
address to the list. Your MAC address is the 'Physical Address' you see
when you run ipconfig /all . Make a note of any changes you make, in
case you need to reverse them later...

Other things to check in the configuration interface include whether the
router is set up to use security (Wireless - Security on the web
interface). I've had major headaches before only to discover that I
should have been using a password, or a different key length.

Good luck with getting it working, these things can take an awful amount
of perseverance!


Thanks Paul and others. I had added the 'new MAC address to the list but
this seemed to make no difference. As you say one needs to persevere,
it's probably a combination of many suggestions on this thread. I have a
few more things to try today, after sleeping on the problem.

Many thanks

--
Keith (Southend)

'Weather Home & Abroad'
http://www.southendweather.net

Hi, got a belkin wireless router which sometimes has a mind of it`s own.
but this web page might help you out
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/more...lesssetup.mspx

But what would say when going wireless you do have to make sure that you
take all security measures possible. I no from personal experience, i
just got the router up and running, just went to get a coffee before
making sure i checked all the right boxs on the setup page. But some
cheeky bug@er got on to the system and locked me out. Another problem
was that some pcs in the house had to be repositioned to get the best
signal, one pc in my son`s bedroom had to be moved from one side of the
room to the opposite to get a good signal.

before i forget you might need to upgrade the routers firmware.

http:\\www.linksy.com\download

another thing you might want to look into is WEP but somehow config of
my wireless network was wrong. The box was checked for "use IEEE 802.1x
authentication for this network" and this was causing the network to
drop out momentarily

hope this helps,

clive

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 09:14:29 +0100, Keith (Southend) wrote:

As you say one needs to persevere, it's probably a combination of
many suggestions on this thread.

Yes, there are lots of variables and all need to be set appropiately
for things to work. Randomly poking about is not likely to produce
good results quickly.

You need to write down all the keys, passwords, IP address's, MAC
address's etc then go through the laptops wireless setup and ensure it
matches that of the router. As the router works with another laptop
I'd be loath to tweak that.

People have been posting IP numbers, don't use them unless they just
happen to be in the same range that your system uses.

--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail