"Tudor Hughes" wrote in message
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Nasty, snipey lot here, it seems. There have been quite a number
of posts over the years relating to the visibility of the moon and
planets. It does depend on the weather, after all.

A lot of things depend on the weather.
That doesn't make them on-topic for this group.
My decision in the morning to wear shorts or trousers depends
on the weather but do you want to hear about it here?
No, I didn't think so.

Gavin keeps on posting off-topic stuff, a vitriolic diatribe against
Ted Heath, a gushing comment about the London bombings, and
now this.

There are thousands of places on the internet suited to discussing
this kind of thing. This group is for discussing UK weather events.

Please Gavin. give it a rest, will ya?

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk
http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co....rPictures.html

On 24 Jul 2005 05:54:46 -0700, "Tudor Hughes"
wrote:

Nasty, snipey lot here, it seems. There have been quite a number
of posts over the years relating to the visibility of the moon and
planets. It does depend on the weather, after all.

Tudor, anyone with any scientific knowledge who takes seriously the
idea that Mars will appear the same size as the full moon hasn't got a
clue. Gavin is, quote, a Fellow Member of the Royal Meteorological
Society, unquote.

Apart from his irritating habit of posting off-topic, he should know
better than to post that sort of rubbish here.

--
Alan White
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Loch Goil and Loch Long in Argyll, Scotland.
Web cam and weather:- http://www.windycroft.gt-britain.co....her/kabcam.htm
Some walks and treks:- http://www.windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/walks/index.html

"Alan White" wrote in message
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On 24 Jul 2005 05:54:46 -0700, "Tudor Hughes"
wrote:

Nasty, snipey lot here, it seems. There have been quite a number
of posts over the years relating to the visibility of the moon and
planets. It does depend on the weather, after all.

Tudor, anyone with any scientific knowledge who takes seriously the
idea that Mars will appear the same size as the full moon hasn't got a
clue. Gavin is, quote, a Fellow Member of the Royal Meteorological
Society, unquote.

Apart from his irritating habit of posting off-topic, he should know
better than to post that sort of rubbish here.

--
Alan White
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Loch Goil and Loch Long in
Argyll, Scotland.
Web cam and weather:-
http://www.windycroft.gt-britain.co....her/kabcam.htm
Some walks and treks:-
http://www.windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/walks/index.html



With all due respect, I don't for one moment think that Mars could appear
the same size as a full moon. I asked for some advice on this, as this after
all is a technical ng, and in moments someone very kindly on this ng passed
on the URL to me, which explained what was going on. I have since forwarded
that URL on to the person who sent me that email in the first instance, and
she has since replied saying thank you. That's all there is to it. I am
sorry that anyone was annoyed by that:-(
I'll take this opportunity to say that this is be my last posting on
this ng, as it appears that my contributions regardless of whatever I wish
to say, are obviously no longer welcome:-(

Gavin.

"Gavin Staples" wrote in message
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"Alan White" wrote in message
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On 24 Jul 2005 05:54:46 -0700, "Tudor Hughes"
wrote:

Nasty, snipey lot here, it seems. There have been quite a number
of posts over the years relating to the visibility of the moon and
planets. It does depend on the weather, after all.

Tudor, anyone with any scientific knowledge who takes seriously the
idea that Mars will appear the same size as the full moon hasn't got a
clue. Gavin is, quote, a Fellow Member of the Royal Meteorological
Society, unquote.

Apart from his irritating habit of posting off-topic, he should know
better than to post that sort of rubbish here.

--
Alan White
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Loch Goil and Loch Long in
Argyll, Scotland.
Web cam and weather:-
http://www.windycroft.gt-britain.co....her/kabcam.htm
Some walks and treks:-
http://www.windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/walks/index.html



With all due respect, I don't for one moment think that Mars could appear
the same size as a full moon. I asked for some advice on this, as this after
all is a technical ng, and in moments someone very kindly on this ng passed
on the URL to me, which explained what was going on. I have since forwarded
that URL on to the person who sent me that email in the first instance, and
she has since replied saying thank you. That's all there is to it. I am
sorry that anyone was annoyed by that:-(
I'll take this opportunity to say that this is be my last posting on
this ng, as it appears that my contributions regardless of whatever I wish
to say, are obviously no longer welcome:-(

Gavin.

Gavin,

All the very best for the future, whatever that holds.

At times we have to take stock with our lives and sometimes opportunities arrive
for growth and development which we can take. I hope this is one for you.

Cheers,

Will.
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" Forget the BBC, visit www.metoffice.gov.uk for UK weather information "
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Gavin Staples writes:
I'll take this opportunity to say that this is be my last posting on
this ng,

That is a pity.

as it appears that my contributions regardless of whatever I wish
to say, are obviously no longer welcome:-(

Most people, me included, welcome your on topic contributions. However
some people, me included, have become increasingly exasperated by your
seeming idea that this is uk.misc rather than uk.sci.weather.
--
John Hall "He crams with cans of poisoned meat
The subjects of the King,
And when they die by thousands G.K.Chesterton:
Why, he laughs like anything." from "Song Against Grocers"

I'll take this opportunity to say that this is be my last posting on this
ng, as it appears that my contributions regardless of whatever I wish to
say, are obviously no longer welcome:-(

Oh come on Gavin!

Just make sure your posts are relevant to this group. I enjoy your summaries
regarding past winters/summers; keep them coming.

You've just been going a bit OTT with the political stuff lately and I am
sure your anti-global warming stance has wound up a few people (me
included); stick to the science and your posts will be valued.
__________________
Nick G
Exe Valley, Devon
50 m amsl

"Gavin Staples" wrote in message
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"Alan White" wrote in message
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On 24 Jul 2005 05:54:46 -0700, "Tudor Hughes"
wrote:

Nasty, snipey lot here, it seems. There have been quite a number
of posts over the years relating to the visibility of the moon and
planets. It does depend on the weather, after all.

Tudor, anyone with any scientific knowledge who takes seriously the
idea that Mars will appear the same size as the full moon hasn't got a
clue. Gavin is, quote, a Fellow Member of the Royal Meteorological
Society, unquote.

Apart from his irritating habit of posting off-topic, he should know
better than to post that sort of rubbish here.

--
Alan White
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Loch Goil and Loch Long in
Argyll, Scotland.
Web cam and weather:-
http://www.windycroft.gt-britain.co....her/kabcam.htm
Some walks and treks:-
http://www.windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/walks/index.html



With all due respect, I don't for one moment think that Mars could appear
the same size as a full moon. I asked for some advice on this, as this
after all is a technical ng, and in moments someone very kindly on this
ng passed on the URL to me, which explained what was going on. I have
since forwarded that URL on to the person who sent me that email in the
first instance, and she has since replied saying thank you. That's all
there is to it. I am sorry that anyone was annoyed by that:-(
I'll take this opportunity to say that this is be my last posting on
this ng, as it appears that my contributions regardless of whatever I wish
to say, are obviously no longer welcome:-(

Gavin.

"Gavin Staples" schreef in bericht
...

"Alan White" wrote in message
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On 24 Jul 2005 05:54:46 -0700, "Tudor Hughes"
wrote:

Nasty, snipey lot here, it seems. There have been quite a number
of posts over the years relating to the visibility of the moon and
planets. It does depend on the weather, after all.

Tudor, anyone with any scientific knowledge who takes seriously the
idea that Mars will appear the same size as the full moon hasn't got
a
clue. Gavin is, quote, a Fellow Member of the Royal Meteorological
Society, unquote.

Apart from his irritating habit of posting off-topic, he should know
better than to post that sort of rubbish here.

--
Alan White
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Loch Goil and Loch Long
in Argyll, Scotland.
Web cam and weather:-
http://www.windycroft.gt-britain.co....her/kabcam.htm
Some walks and treks:-
http://www.windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/walks/index.html



With all due respect, I don't for one moment think that Mars could
appear the same size as a full moon. I asked for some advice on this,
as this after all is a technical ng, and in moments someone very
kindly on this ng passed on the URL to me, which explained what was
going on. I have since forwarded that URL on to the person who sent me
that email in the first instance, and she has since replied saying
thank you. That's all there is to it. I am sorry that anyone was
annoyed by that:-(
I'll take this opportunity to say that this is be my last posting
on this ng, as it appears that my contributions regardless of whatever
I wish to say, are obviously no longer welcome:-(

Gavin.


I read the first posting and found nothing wrong. I remember that Mars'
diameter is given as 25 arcseconds. If one looks through a 75 X
telescope the angle becomes 1875 arcseconds or 31 minutes, the diameter
of the moon as we see it with the naked eye.

Am I mad or am I?

Sytze, (80 since a couple of months ago)

"Sytze Stel" wrote in message
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I read the first posting and found nothing wrong. I remember that Mars'
diameter is given as 25 arcseconds. If one looks through a 75 X telescope
the angle becomes 1875 arcseconds or 31 minutes, the diameter of the moon
as we see it with the naked eye.

Am I mad or am I?

Sytze, (80 since a couple of months ago)

Sytze

Gavin was quoting figures that may have been true in 2003, but they are
certainly not this year. The apparent diameter of Mars is no greater than
14 arcseconds this August.

Best wishes, Roger

"Roger Smith" schreef in bericht
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"Sytze Stel" wrote in message
ll.nl...


I read the first posting and found nothing wrong. I remember that
Mars' diameter is given as 25 arcseconds. If one looks through a 75 X
telescope the angle becomes 1875 arcseconds or 31 minutes, the
diameter of the moon as we see it with the naked eye.

Am I mad or am I?

Sytze, (80 since a couple of months ago)

Sytze

Gavin was quoting figures that may have been true in 2003, but they
are certainly not this year. The apparent diameter of Mars is no
greater than 14 arcseconds this August.

Best wishes, Roger


Thank you Roger, that makes half a moon ;-)

Regards,
Sytze

If you read the email carefully the actually sentence reads :

At a modest
75-power magnification
Mars will look as large as the full moon to the naked eye.

ie. to the naked eye Mars looks like a star, but when magnified only 75
times
looks similar to the size of the full moon with the naked eye. That's how
I understood it anyway !

Mars = 25 arc seconds
Moon = 31 arc minutes
Mars X75 = 1875 arc seconds = approx 31 arc minutes

so the email from Gavin contains an accurate statement just badly formatted.

Martin


Nick G wrote in message
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Mars will look as large as the full moon to the naked eye.

Absolute nonsense!

It will appear as nothing more than a very bright, pinkish star to the
naked
eye.
__________________
Nick G
Thorverton, Exe Valley, Devon
50 m amsl

"Gavin Staples" wrote in message
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The Red Planet is about to be spectacular!



This month and next, Earth is catching up with Mars in an encounter
that
will culminate in the closest approach between the two planets in
recorded history. The next time Mars may come this close is
in 2287. Due to the way Jupiter's gravity tugs on
Mars and perturbs its orbit, astronomers can only be
certain that Mars has not come this close to Earth
in the Last 5,000 years, but it may be as long as
60,000 years before it happens again.

The encounter will culminate on August 27th when
Mars comes to within 34,649,589 miles of Earth and
will be (next to the moon) the brightest object in
the night sky. It will attain a magnitude of -2.9
and will appear 25.11 arc seconds wide. At a modest
75-power magnification





Mars will look as large as the full moon to the naked eye.



Does anyone know about this. I got this in an email from a freind of
mine
from Japan.




--
Gavin Staples.

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www.gavinstaples.com
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