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Michael Mcneil wrote:
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Colin Youngs wrote in message ...
... Also reported on Indian Met Office website



... and in The Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/india/stor...537118,00.html



I thought he was querying the 13mm figure. The other stuff seemed more
reasonable for the area. Was there a typhoon coming ashore?



No I was realy querying the 944 figure, the the reports are for the
previous 24 hours, hence each one changes.

Incidentally, someone mentioned the maximum ever fall in 24 hours of
1270mm, where and when did that occur?

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Michael Mcneil wrote:
"Colin Youngs" wrote in message


Colin Youngs wrote in message ...
... Also reported on Indian Met Office website


... and in The Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/india/stor...537118,00.html

I thought he was querying the 13mm figure. The other stuff seemed
more
reasonable for the area. Was there a typhoon coming ashore?


No I was realy querying the 944 figure, the the reports are for the
previous 24 hours, hence each one changes.

Incidentally, someone mentioned the maximum ever fall in 24 hours of
1270mm, where and when did that occur?


All the really big documented falls are from Reunion Island in the South
Indian Ocean. All occurred in association with tropical cyclones.

12-hours: 1144 mm 7-8 Jan 1966
24-hours 1825 mm 7-8 Jan 1966
48-hours 2467 mm 8-10 Apr 1958
72-hours 3240 mm 24-27 Jan 1980
10-days 5678 mm 18-27 Jan 1980


Source: Hurricane Research Division, NCEP, Washington


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I thought he was querying the 13mm figure. The other stuff seemed more
reasonable for the area. Was there a typhoon coming ashore?


Horrifying though the figures are they do not seem at all unusual:

Indian monsoon strands 150,000
ic Wales, United Kingdom - 9 hours ago
TROOPS were deployed today in western India, including the country’s
main financial centre Mumbai, after sudden monsoon rains snapped
communication lines ...
Indian landslides claims dozens of lives

Indian monsoon rains normal at 97.6 pct of average
Reuters India, India - 8 Jul 2005
NEW DELHI (Reuters) - India's crucial monsoon rains have been normal
since the beginning of the season in June at 97.6 percent of the
long-period average, a ...

Reuters India Indian monsoon rains normal at 97.6 pct of average
Reuters India, India - 8 Jul 2005
NEW DELHI (Reuters) - India's crucial monsoon rains have been normal
since the beginning of the season in June at 97.6 percent of the
long-period average, a ...

Indian monsoon death toll up to 131
San Jose Mercury News, CA - 4 Jul 2005
NEW DELHI, India (AP) - Monsoon floods in India's western Gujarat state
have inundated more than 7,200 villages, left about 175,000 homeless and
killed at ...

140,000 flee floods as Indian monsoon strikes
Ireland Online, Ireland - 30 Jun 2005
Heavy monsoon downpours lashed eastern India today, submerging vast
areas in the eastern state of Orissa and forcing around 140,000 people
to flee their homes ...

Indian monsoon could be tapped for tourism: CII
NewKerala.com, India - 2 Jul 2005
New Delhi: The Indian monsoon season, with its overcast skies and
continuous rain, should be promoted as a tourist attraction, an industry
lobby says. ...

Fire destroys Indian oil platform, at least 3 dead
SABC News, South Africa - 13 minutes ago
.... Initial reports indicated the fire may have started when a drilling
vessel swept into the platform by high monsoon winds, a government
source said but Aiyar ...



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Thanks Norman,

I was just wondering, how do you report totals over 1000mm in the
synops?

Keith (Southend)

Norman Lynagh wrote:
All the really big documented falls are from Reunion Island in the South
Indian Ocean. All occurred in association with tropical cyclones.

12-hours: 1144 mm 7-8 Jan 1966
24-hours 1825 mm 7-8 Jan 1966
48-hours 2467 mm 8-10 Apr 1958
72-hours 3240 mm 24-27 Jan 1980
10-days 5678 mm 18-27 Jan 1980


Source: Hurricane Research Division, NCEP, Washington


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I was just wondering, how do you report totals over 1000mm in the
synops?


I *think* that the only mechanism currently is to report it in the
Section labelled 333 in the 24 hour total group ... 7R24R24R24R24, where
that amount would be in

milllimetres. I'm not sure if India use that group though ... there is
no mention of it in the 'National' section of the WMO Manual of Codes
for India.

INDIA

6RRRtR This group is used in the form 6RRR/, RRR indicates the amount of
precipitation which has

fallen since 0300 UTC. When reported, group 6RRR/ is included in Section
3.



Martin.








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Martin Rowley wrote:

I *think* that the only mechanism currently is to report it in the
Section labelled 333 in the 24 hour total group ... 7R24R24R24R24, where
that amount would be in


India doesn't use the 24 hour code 7****, however, the maximum that can
be reported is 999.8mm, 79998, because 79999 = Trace. Unless they add
another digit to the group, but I don't think that can be done.

milllimetres. I'm not sure if India use that group though ... there is
no mention of it in the 'National' section of the WMO Manual of Codes
for India.

INDIA

6RRRtR This group is used in the form 6RRR/, RRR indicates the amount of
precipitation which has


Yes India use this group.
/ indicates past 24 hours, some Countries use a 4 at the end.
Similarily, 6999/ = trace, 6998/ = 998mm

fallen since 0300 UTC. When reported, group 6RRR/ is included in Section
3.



Martin.


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"Keith (Southend)G" wrote in message
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Martin Rowley wrote:

I *think* that the only mechanism currently is to report it in the
Section labelled 333 in the 24 hour total group ... 7R24R24R24R24,
where
that amount would be in


India doesn't use the 24 hour code 7****, however, the maximum that
can
be reported is 999.8mm, 79998, because 79999 = Trace. Unless they add
another digit to the group, but I don't think that can be done.


.... I thought there was a means of converting the R24R24R24R24 into mm
only, but can't find the reference. If I do, I'll post it on.

Martin.



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In message . com,
"Keith (Southend)G" writes
Thanks Norman,

I was just wondering, how do you report totals over 1000mm in the
synops?

Keith (Southend)


Good question, Keith. In the 6-group the highest total that can be
explicitly reported is 988 mm. Code figure 989 means 989 mm or more,

Norman.




Norman Lynagh wrote:
All the really big documented falls are from Reunion Island in the South
Indian Ocean. All occurred in association with tropical cyclones.

12-hours: 1144 mm 7-8 Jan 1966
24-hours 1825 mm 7-8 Jan 1966
48-hours 2467 mm 8-10 Apr 1958
72-hours 3240 mm 24-27 Jan 1980
10-days 5678 mm 18-27 Jan 1980


Source: Hurricane Research Division, NCEP, Washington



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"Martin Rowley" m wrote
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... I thought there was a means of converting the R24R24R24R24 into mm
only, but can't find the reference. If I do, I'll post it on.


.... no, my mistake. I was confusing the reporting of rainfall in SYNOP
with that in other forms such as CLIMAT and HYDRA, and in the latter
specifically, Code 3596 does report rainfall in whole mm, but for period
of 'x' days, where x is usually segments of a month. As you write, there
does not seem to be a method of reporting such high rainfall totals in
the *SYNOP* code.

Martin.


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Michael Mcneil wrote in message ...

:The Indian monsoon season, with its overcast skies and
:continuous rain, should be promoted as a tourist attraction, an industry
:lobby says.

I wonder how much interest there will be in the monsoon as a tourist
attraction ...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4723335.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/4723693.stm

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