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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/st...552092,00.html http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...l/436897a.html I'd like to invite those on both sides of the debate to offer whatever bets they would be willing to make, either posted here or by email (see sig). I'll try to act as a match-maker to set up individual agreements. So far, a few people have said they are willing to weigh in on the warming side, and Piers Corbyn has said (quoted in Nature) that he is "happy to bet loads of money" (presumably on the sceptic side), although I've not got any firm commitment out of him. Of course, contributors are not limited to betting at evens for a threshold of 0C temperature change. Just choose whatever you think is an acceptable risk/return. However, while some people are confidently predicting significant world cooling, and others a continued warming, it is probably a plausible starting point. Ideally, the money should be paid up-front and invested somewhere sensible, but I think it's easier to rely on "gentleman's agreements" for now. Maybe a proper market will be set up eventually, but it surely won't be unless there is some evidence of interest in the first place. James -- James Annan see web pages for email http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/ http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/ |
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![]() "James Annan" wrote in message oups.com... With reference to: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/st...552092,00.html http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...l/436897a.html I'd like to invite those on both sides of the debate to offer whatever bets they would be willing to make, either posted here or by email (see sig). I'll try to act as a match-maker to set up individual agreements. So far, a few people have said they are willing to weigh in on the warming side, and Piers Corbyn has said (quoted in Nature) that he is "happy to bet loads of money" (presumably on the sceptic side), although I've not got any firm commitment out of him. Of course, contributors are not limited to betting at evens for a threshold of 0C temperature change. Just choose whatever you think is an acceptable risk/return. However, while some people are confidently predicting significant world cooling, and others a continued warming, it is probably a plausible starting point. Ideally, the money should be paid up-front and invested somewhere sensible, but I think it's easier to rely on "gentleman's agreements" for now. Maybe a proper market will be set up eventually, but it surely won't be unless there is some evidence of interest in the first place. James -- James Annan see web pages for email http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/ http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/ James I hope your not related to Koffi Annan.? There are some strange links here, for instance Maurice Strong Senior Advisor to the United Nations and a leading spokesperson on environmental issues http://www.iaed.org/books/strong.html Has now been forced to resign over allegations of corruption and all sorts of shennanigans with the Iraqi "Oil for food " Programme. It would seem that Mr Strong a leading light on Kyoto has found it far too hot in the the thieves kitchen. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../16/do1602.xml There are lot's of Annan's around at the moment and all seem to be linked to the UN and via the UN to Global Warming and perhaps more tellingly to corruption. Now I've added up two plus two, you are a "Climate Expert", and it's evident you have no time for the Global Warming dissidents-so are you one of the Annan Clan? |
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![]() lawrence Jenkins wrote: James I hope your not related to Koffi Annan.? There are lot's of Annan's around at the moment and all seem to be linked to the UN and via the UN to Global Warming and perhaps more tellingly to corruption. Now I've added up two plus two, you are a "Climate Expert", and it's evident you have no time for the Global Warming dissidents-so are you one of the Annan Clan? ROFL James |
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"lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
... "James Annan" wrote in message oups.com... With reference to: -- James Annan see web pages for email http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/ http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/ James I hope your not related to Koffi Annan.? My God. How could I have been so blind... (Then again, with his billions of scammed Iraqi Oil-for-Food money, maybe I should continue to tow the line...) -- Coby Beck (remove #\Space "coby 101 @ bigpond . com") |
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![]() Coby Beck wrote: "lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message ... "James Annan" wrote in message oups.com... With reference to: -- James Annan see web pages for email http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/ http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/ James I hope your not related to Koffi Annan.? My God. How could I have been so blind... (Then again, with his billions of scammed Iraqi Oil-for-Food money, maybe I should continue to tow the line...) How else could I fund these crazy giveaway betting deals? Obviously the septics who turned me down were merely avoiding the risk of laundering dirty money. James |
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James' Warming for Food scandal. News at 10.
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lawrence Jenkins wrote:
"James Annan" wrote in message snip James Annan see web pages for email http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/ http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/ James I hope your not related to Koffi Annan.? Meaningless noise. Not even good rhetoric. There are some strange links here, for instance Maurice Strong Senior Advisor to the United Nations and a leading spokesperson on environmental issues http://www.iaed.org/books/strong.html And past CEO of Ontario Hydro. So what? Has now been forced to resign over allegations of corruption and all sorts of shennanigans with the Iraqi "Oil for food " Programme. No. Maurice Strong, under-secretary-general, resigned because he'd put his step-daughter on the payroll - she's also quit. They call it 'nepotism' and maybe he skirted the edges of 'legal' there. Nothing there about the oil for food program. P.S. what scandal? One person has been actually charged with an offense, and pleaded guilty. The rest is much todo about nothing. As with most U.S. **** these days, it is all about the allegations, not about the facts. It would seem that Mr Strong a leading light on Kyoto has found it far too hot in the the thieves kitchen. Seems like you have found a new source of hot air. Yourself. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../16/do1602.xml Note: above is "/opinion/" which means the rantings of the average dim****. There are lot's of Annan's around at the moment and all seem to be linked to the UN and via the UN to Global Warming and perhaps more tellingly to corruption. And perhaps you are a green martian trying to pretent to be a rational poster. In fact, that isn't such a stretch given your meaningless maunderings. Now I've added up two plus two, you are a "Climate Expert", and it's evident you have no time for the Global Warming dissidents-so are you one of the Annan Clan? Hmm. Are you related to Tonica Jenkins? It would explain your criminal tendencies... http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=15959 |
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![]() "Ian St. John" wrote in message ... lawrence Jenkins wrote: "James Annan" wrote in message snip James Annan see web pages for email http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/ http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/ James I hope your not related to Koffi Annan.? Meaningless noise. Not even good rhetoric. There are some strange links here, for instance Maurice Strong Senior Advisor to the United Nations and a leading spokesperson on environmental issues http://www.iaed.org/books/strong.html And past CEO of Ontario Hydro. So what? Has now been forced to resign over allegations of corruption and all sorts of shennanigans with the Iraqi "Oil for food " Programme. No. Maurice Strong, under-secretary-general, resigned because he'd put his step-daughter on the payroll - she's also quit. They call it 'nepotism' and maybe he skirted the edges of 'legal' there. Nothing there about the oil for food program. P.S. what scandal? One person has been actually charged with an offense, and pleaded guilty. The rest is much todo about nothing. As with most U.S. **** these days, it is all about the allegations, not about the facts. It would seem that Mr Strong a leading light on Kyoto has found it far too hot in the the thieves kitchen. Seems like you have found a new source of hot air. Yourself. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../16/do1602.xml Note: above is "/opinion/" which means the rantings of the average dim****. There are lot's of Annan's around at the moment and all seem to be linked to the UN and via the UN to Global Warming and perhaps more tellingly to corruption. And perhaps you are a green martian trying to pretent to be a rational poster. In fact, that isn't such a stretch given your meaningless maunderings. Now I've added up two plus two, you are a "Climate Expert", and it's evident you have no time for the Global Warming dissidents-so are you one of the Annan Clan? Hmm. Are you related to Tonica Jenkins? It would explain your criminal tendencies... http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=15959 Ah there speaks a Guardian reader. Oh by the way has your career sunk so much since "World of Sport" That you are reduced to redeeming some smidgion of importance here....... on Whiskey weather boothill? Its very sad. |
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![]() "Ian St. John" wrote in message ... lawrence Jenkins wrote: "James Annan" wrote in message snip James Annan see web pages for email http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/ http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/ James I hope your not related to Koffi Annan.? Meaningless noise. Not even good rhetoric. There are some strange links here, for instance Maurice Strong Senior Advisor to the United Nations and a leading spokesperson on environmental issues http://www.iaed.org/books/strong.html And past CEO of Ontario Hydro. So what? Has now been forced to resign over allegations of corruption and all sorts of shennanigans with the Iraqi "Oil for food " Programme. No. Maurice Strong, under-secretary-general, resigned because he'd put his step-daughter on the payroll - she's also quit. They call it 'nepotism' and maybe he skirted the edges of 'legal' there. Nothing there about the oil for food program. P.S. what scandal? One person has been actually charged with an offense, and pleaded guilty. The rest is much todo about nothing. As with most U.S. **** these days, it is all about the allegations, not about the facts. It would seem that Mr Strong a leading light on Kyoto has found it far too hot in the the thieves kitchen. Seems like you have found a new source of hot air. Yourself. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../16/do1602.xml Note: above is "/opinion/" which means the rantings of the average dim****. There are lot's of Annan's around at the moment and all seem to be linked to the UN and via the UN to Global Warming and perhaps more tellingly to corruption. And perhaps you are a green martian trying to pretent to be a rational poster. In fact, that isn't such a stretch given your meaningless maunderings. Now I've added up two plus two, you are a "Climate Expert", and it's evident you have no time for the Global Warming dissidents-so are you one of the Annan Clan? Hmm. Are you related to Tonica Jenkins? It would explain your criminal tendencies... http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=15959 You wanna fight? Have a look at this Walter mitty character http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtm...Maurice_Strong Me hot air? You have some warm front. |
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lawrence Jenkins wrote:
"Ian St. John" wrote in message ... lawrence Jenkins wrote: "James Annan" wrote in message snip James Annan see web pages for email http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/ http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/ James I hope your not related to Koffi Annan.? Meaningless noise. Not even good rhetoric. There are some strange links here, for instance Maurice Strong Senior Advisor to the United Nations and a leading spokesperson on environmental issues http://www.iaed.org/books/strong.html And past CEO of Ontario Hydro. So what? Has now been forced to resign over allegations of corruption and all sorts of shennanigans with the Iraqi "Oil for food " Programme. No. Maurice Strong, under-secretary-general, resigned because he'd put his step-daughter on the payroll - she's also quit. They call it 'nepotism' and maybe he skirted the edges of 'legal' there. Nothing there about the oil for food program. P.S. what scandal? One person has been actually charged with an offense, and pleaded guilty. The rest is much todo about nothing. As with most U.S. **** these days, it is all about the allegations, not about the facts. It would seem that Mr Strong a leading light on Kyoto has found it far too hot in the the thieves kitchen. Seems like you have found a new source of hot air. Yourself. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../16/do1602.xml Note: above is "/opinion/" which means the rantings of the average dim****. There are lot's of Annan's around at the moment and all seem to be linked to the UN and via the UN to Global Warming and perhaps more tellingly to corruption. And perhaps you are a green martian trying to pretent to be a rational poster. In fact, that isn't such a stretch given your meaningless maunderings. Now I've added up two plus two, you are a "Climate Expert", and it's evident you have no time for the Global Warming dissidents-so are you one of the Annan Clan? Hmm. Are you related to Tonica Jenkins? It would explain your criminal tendencies... http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=15959 You wanna fight? Have a look at this Walter mitty character http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtm...Maurice_Strong Me hot air? You have some warm front. Jealousy is such a poor substitute for though. It does you no credit here. |
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