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With reference to:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/st...552092,00.html
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...l/436897a.html

I'd like to invite those on both sides of the debate to offer whatever
bets they would be willing to make, either posted here or by email (see
sig). I'll try to act as a match-maker to set up individual agreements.

So far, a few people have said they are willing to weigh in on the
warming side, and Piers Corbyn has said (quoted in Nature) that he is
"happy to bet loads of money" (presumably on the sceptic side),
although I've not got any firm commitment out of him.

Of course, contributors are not limited to betting at evens for a
threshold of 0C temperature change. Just choose whatever you think is
an acceptable risk/return. However, while some people are confidently
predicting significant world cooling, and others a continued warming,
it is probably a plausible starting point.

Ideally, the money should be paid up-front and invested somewhere
sensible, but I think it's easier to rely on "gentleman's agreements"
for now. Maybe a proper market will be set up eventually, but it surely
won't be unless there is some evidence of interest in the first place.

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"James Annan" wrote in message
oups.com...
With reference to:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/st...552092,00.html
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...l/436897a.html

I'd like to invite those on both sides of the debate to offer whatever
bets they would be willing to make, either posted here or by email (see
sig). I'll try to act as a match-maker to set up individual agreements.

So far, a few people have said they are willing to weigh in on the
warming side, and Piers Corbyn has said (quoted in Nature) that he is
"happy to bet loads of money" (presumably on the sceptic side),
although I've not got any firm commitment out of him.

Of course, contributors are not limited to betting at evens for a
threshold of 0C temperature change. Just choose whatever you think is
an acceptable risk/return. However, while some people are confidently
predicting significant world cooling, and others a continued warming,
it is probably a plausible starting point.

Ideally, the money should be paid up-front and invested somewhere
sensible, but I think it's easier to rely on "gentleman's agreements"
for now. Maybe a proper market will be set up eventually, but it surely
won't be unless there is some evidence of interest in the first place.

James
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see web pages for email
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/
http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/



James I hope your not related to Koffi Annan.?


There are some strange links here, for instance Maurice Strong Senior
Advisor to the United Nations and a leading spokesperson on environmental
issues

http://www.iaed.org/books/strong.html

Has now been forced to resign over allegations of corruption and all sorts
of shennanigans with the Iraqi "Oil for food " Programme. It would seem that
Mr Strong a leading light on Kyoto has found it far too hot in the the
thieves kitchen.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../16/do1602.xml

There are lot's of Annan's around at the moment and all seem to be linked to
the UN and via the UN to Global Warming and perhaps more tellingly to
corruption.

Now I've added up two plus two, you are a "Climate Expert", and it's evident
you have no time for the Global Warming dissidents-so are you one of the
Annan Clan?




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lawrence Jenkins wrote:

James I hope your not related to Koffi Annan.?


There are lot's of Annan's around at the moment and all seem to be linked to
the UN and via the UN to Global Warming and perhaps more tellingly to
corruption.

Now I've added up two plus two, you are a "Climate Expert", and it's evident
you have no time for the Global Warming dissidents-so are you one of the
Annan Clan?


ROFL

James

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"lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
...

"James Annan" wrote in message
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With reference to:


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http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/
http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/



James I hope your not related to Koffi Annan.?


My God. How could I have been so blind...

(Then again, with his billions of scammed Iraqi Oil-for-Food money, maybe I
should continue to tow the line...)

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Coby Beck wrote:
"lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
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"James Annan" wrote in message
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With reference to:


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http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/
http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/



James I hope your not related to Koffi Annan.?


My God. How could I have been so blind...

(Then again, with his billions of scammed Iraqi Oil-for-Food money, maybe I
should continue to tow the line...)


How else could I fund these crazy giveaway betting deals? Obviously the
septics who turned me down were merely avoiding the risk of laundering
dirty money.

James



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James' Warming for Food scandal. News at 10.

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lawrence Jenkins wrote:
"James Annan" wrote in message

snip
James Annan
see web pages for email
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/
http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/



James I hope your not related to Koffi Annan.?


Meaningless noise. Not even good rhetoric.



There are some strange links here, for instance Maurice Strong Senior
Advisor to the United Nations and a leading spokesperson on
environmental issues

http://www.iaed.org/books/strong.html


And past CEO of Ontario Hydro. So what?


Has now been forced to resign over allegations of corruption and all
sorts of shennanigans with the Iraqi "Oil for food " Programme.


No. Maurice Strong, under-secretary-general, resigned because he'd put his
step-daughter on the payroll - she's also quit. They call it 'nepotism' and
maybe he skirted the edges of 'legal' there. Nothing there about the oil for
food program. P.S. what scandal? One person has been actually charged with
an offense, and pleaded guilty. The rest is much todo about nothing. As with
most U.S. **** these days, it is all about the allegations, not about the
facts.


It
would seem that Mr Strong a leading light on Kyoto has found it far
too hot in the the thieves kitchen.


Seems like you have found a new source of hot air. Yourself.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../16/do1602.xml

Note: above is "/opinion/" which means the rantings of the average dim****.

There are lot's of Annan's around at the moment and all seem to be
linked to the UN and via the UN to Global Warming and perhaps more
tellingly to corruption.


And perhaps you are a green martian trying to pretent to be a rational
poster. In fact, that isn't such a stretch given your meaningless
maunderings.


Now I've added up two plus two, you are a "Climate Expert", and it's
evident you have no time for the Global Warming dissidents-so are you
one of the Annan Clan?


Hmm. Are you related to Tonica Jenkins? It would explain your criminal
tendencies...
http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=15959


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"Ian St. John" wrote in message
...
lawrence Jenkins wrote:
"James Annan" wrote in message

snip
James Annan
see web pages for email
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/
http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/



James I hope your not related to Koffi Annan.?


Meaningless noise. Not even good rhetoric.



There are some strange links here, for instance Maurice Strong Senior
Advisor to the United Nations and a leading spokesperson on
environmental issues

http://www.iaed.org/books/strong.html


And past CEO of Ontario Hydro. So what?


Has now been forced to resign over allegations of corruption and all
sorts of shennanigans with the Iraqi "Oil for food " Programme.


No. Maurice Strong, under-secretary-general, resigned because he'd put his
step-daughter on the payroll - she's also quit. They call it 'nepotism'
and
maybe he skirted the edges of 'legal' there. Nothing there about the oil
for
food program. P.S. what scandal? One person has been actually charged with
an offense, and pleaded guilty. The rest is much todo about nothing. As
with
most U.S. **** these days, it is all about the allegations, not about the
facts.


It
would seem that Mr Strong a leading light on Kyoto has found it far
too hot in the the thieves kitchen.


Seems like you have found a new source of hot air. Yourself.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../16/do1602.xml

Note: above is "/opinion/" which means the rantings of the average
dim****.

There are lot's of Annan's around at the moment and all seem to be
linked to the UN and via the UN to Global Warming and perhaps more
tellingly to corruption.


And perhaps you are a green martian trying to pretent to be a rational
poster. In fact, that isn't such a stretch given your meaningless
maunderings.


Now I've added up two plus two, you are a "Climate Expert", and it's
evident you have no time for the Global Warming dissidents-so are you
one of the Annan Clan?


Hmm. Are you related to Tonica Jenkins? It would explain your criminal
tendencies...
http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=15959



Ah there speaks a Guardian reader. Oh by the way has your career sunk so
much since "World of Sport" That you are reduced to redeeming some smidgion
of importance here....... on Whiskey weather boothill?

Its very sad.


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"Ian St. John" wrote in message
...
lawrence Jenkins wrote:
"James Annan" wrote in message

snip
James Annan
see web pages for email
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/
http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/



James I hope your not related to Koffi Annan.?


Meaningless noise. Not even good rhetoric.



There are some strange links here, for instance Maurice Strong Senior
Advisor to the United Nations and a leading spokesperson on
environmental issues

http://www.iaed.org/books/strong.html


And past CEO of Ontario Hydro. So what?


Has now been forced to resign over allegations of corruption and all
sorts of shennanigans with the Iraqi "Oil for food " Programme.


No. Maurice Strong, under-secretary-general, resigned because he'd put his
step-daughter on the payroll - she's also quit. They call it 'nepotism'
and
maybe he skirted the edges of 'legal' there. Nothing there about the oil
for
food program. P.S. what scandal? One person has been actually charged with
an offense, and pleaded guilty. The rest is much todo about nothing. As
with
most U.S. **** these days, it is all about the allegations, not about the
facts.


It
would seem that Mr Strong a leading light on Kyoto has found it far
too hot in the the thieves kitchen.


Seems like you have found a new source of hot air. Yourself.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../16/do1602.xml

Note: above is "/opinion/" which means the rantings of the average
dim****.

There are lot's of Annan's around at the moment and all seem to be
linked to the UN and via the UN to Global Warming and perhaps more
tellingly to corruption.


And perhaps you are a green martian trying to pretent to be a rational
poster. In fact, that isn't such a stretch given your meaningless
maunderings.


Now I've added up two plus two, you are a "Climate Expert", and it's
evident you have no time for the Global Warming dissidents-so are you
one of the Annan Clan?


Hmm. Are you related to Tonica Jenkins? It would explain your criminal
tendencies...
http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=15959



You wanna fight? Have a look at this Walter mitty character

http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtm...Maurice_Strong

Me hot air? You have some warm front.


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lawrence Jenkins wrote:
"Ian St. John" wrote in message
...
lawrence Jenkins wrote:
"James Annan" wrote in message

snip
James Annan
see web pages for email
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/
http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/


James I hope your not related to Koffi Annan.?


Meaningless noise. Not even good rhetoric.



There are some strange links here, for instance Maurice Strong
Senior Advisor to the United Nations and a leading spokesperson on
environmental issues

http://www.iaed.org/books/strong.html


And past CEO of Ontario Hydro. So what?


Has now been forced to resign over allegations of corruption and all
sorts of shennanigans with the Iraqi "Oil for food " Programme.


No. Maurice Strong, under-secretary-general, resigned because he'd
put his step-daughter on the payroll - she's also quit. They call it
'nepotism' and
maybe he skirted the edges of 'legal' there. Nothing there about the
oil for
food program. P.S. what scandal? One person has been actually
charged with an offense, and pleaded guilty. The rest is much todo
about nothing. As with
most U.S. **** these days, it is all about the allegations, not
about the facts.


It
would seem that Mr Strong a leading light on Kyoto has found it far
too hot in the the thieves kitchen.


Seems like you have found a new source of hot air. Yourself.




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../16/do1602.xml

Note: above is "/opinion/" which means the rantings of the average
dim****.

There are lot's of Annan's around at the moment and all seem to be
linked to the UN and via the UN to Global Warming and perhaps more
tellingly to corruption.


And perhaps you are a green martian trying to pretent to be a
rational poster. In fact, that isn't such a stretch given your
meaningless maunderings.


Now I've added up two plus two, you are a "Climate Expert", and it's
evident you have no time for the Global Warming dissidents-so are
you one of the Annan Clan?


Hmm. Are you related to Tonica Jenkins? It would explain your
criminal tendencies...
http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=15959



You wanna fight? Have a look at this Walter mitty character

http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtm...Maurice_Strong

Me hot air? You have some warm front.


Jealousy is such a poor substitute for though. It does you no credit here.




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