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Default Yet again the storms miss most of the SE.

It is remarkable how many instances of storms becoming inactive and/or not
reaching areas to the south and east of say the north fringes of London
this year where incidentally the highest temperaturea are often located. At
least a dozen times since May and probably more and of course a good example
tonight. This pattern has been observed with increasing frequency in recent
years and in my opinion reflects a slow northward shift of areas of
subsidence with few storms forming over the north of France and moving north
to London.
I expect an increasing amount of thundery developments to occur later in the
year after mid September /October in the SE reflecting a semi Mediterranean
like regime. It is not conclusive proof of climate change but it is in my
opinion a significant signal similar in importance to say a lack of October
snow across the south compared to previous centuries within the Little Ice
Age.

Ian Currie-Coulsdon
www.frostedearth.com




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Ian Currie wrote:
It is remarkable how many instances of storms becoming inactive and/or not
reaching areas to the south and east of say the north fringes of London
this year where incidentally the highest temperaturea are often located. At
least a dozen times since May and probably more and of course a good example
tonight. This pattern has been observed with increasing frequency in recent
years and in my opinion reflects a slow northward shift of areas of
subsidence with few storms forming over the north of France and moving north
to London.
I expect an increasing amount of thundery developments to occur later in the
year after mid September /October in the SE reflecting a semi Mediterranean
like regime. It is not conclusive proof of climate change but it is in my
opinion a significant signal similar in importance to say a lack of October
snow across the south compared to previous centuries within the Little Ice
Age.

Ian Currie-Coulsdon
www.frostedearth.com


Yes, I agree that the best action seems now to be in the north,
and not just this year either. It is certainly indicative of a
circulation change with summers in the south now rather bland and warm
and, especially in July, considerably drier.
Are there any definite figures which could show that the region
of strongest thermal contrast in the large-scale circulation in summer
has moved north?

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

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Ian Currie wrote:
It is remarkable how many instances of storms becoming inactive and/or not
reaching areas to the south and east of say the north fringes of London
this year ....


I would also say the Bath/West country area. I cannot remember a good
storm event in this area for at least the last 14 or 15 years. The
highlight I do recall is working in the bar at Combe Grove Hotel (full
name not given due to not wanting to spam it, locals will know it!). We,
late at night watched storms coming in from over Salisbury Plain, they
seemed to actually come in from all directions [not north] but without
any rain over us [watching]. It was a very surreal experience. Probably
about 30 to 40 hotel residents plus staff staying out late on the lawns
watching very intense lightning. We ended up opening up the bar and
having a few beers in awe (did i spell that wrong) at the site. When I
went back to staff accomodation on Brassknocker Hill, a huge old tree
had been felled onto the main road.
Along with my colleagues and a few stellas in hand (and a maglite) we
directed cars through the hotel grounds....

Sum up, A hell of a night, the above was only about half of what
happened, but will stay with me for a long time. [even after 15 years]

PS ... Sorry if I have rambled, I've a couple of stella's

Si
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Si wrote:
Ian Currie wrote:

It is remarkable how many instances of storms becoming inactive and/or
not
reaching areas to the south and east of say the north fringes of London
this year ....



I would also say the Bath/West country area. I cannot remember a good
storm event in this area for at least the last 14 or 15 years. The
highlight I do recall is working in the bar at Combe Grove Hotel (full
name not given due to not wanting to spam it, locals will know it!). We,
late at night watched storms coming in from over Salisbury Plain, they
seemed to actually come in from all directions [not north] but without
any rain over us [watching]. It was a very surreal experience. Probably
about 30 to 40 hotel residents plus staff staying out late on the lawns
watching very intense lightning. We ended up opening up the bar and
having a few beers in awe (did i spell that wrong) at the site. When I
went back to staff accomodation on Brassknocker Hill, a huge old tree
had been felled onto the main road.
Along with my colleagues and a few stellas in hand (and a maglite) we
directed cars through the hotel grounds....

Sum up, A hell of a night, the above was only about half of what
happened, but will stay with me for a long time. [even after 15 years]

PS ... Sorry if I have rambled, I've a couple of stella's

Si


Did that go a bot OT .... Sorry
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"Ian Currie" wrote in message
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It is remarkable how many instances of storms becoming inactive and/or not
reaching areas to the south and east of say the north fringes of London
this year where incidentally the highest temperaturea are often located.
At
least a dozen times since May and probably more and of course a good
example
tonight. This pattern has been observed with increasing frequency in
recent
years and in my opinion reflects a slow northward shift of areas of
subsidence with few storms forming over the north of France and moving
north
to London.
I expect an increasing amount of thundery developments to occur later in
the
year after mid September /October in the SE reflecting a semi
Mediterranean
like regime. It is not conclusive proof of climate change but it is in my
opinion a significant signal similar in importance to say a lack of
October
snow across the south compared to previous centuries within the Little Ice
Age.

Ian Currie-Coulsdon
www.frostedearth.com

There was alot of distnat lightning flashes in St albans yesterday evening
but the only rain we had was a few large spots on several occasions.

Alan




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